DTG WIP: Miami - West Palm Beach

[Antwerp]

As long as the cars stay on the track, I'm fine with it. I don't pay close enough attention to the wheels to care.

[MattW]

It sounds like I'll be the sole detractor in this thread of the route itself. I have a friend who lives in the area and last week a few days after the release, he took a train down from West Palm to Miami Airport and back and he hates it. He admits DTG did well right around some of the featured stations, but outside of that the route isn't real close to realistic scenery. I don't simply throw this out here as "well he said..." he backed everything with screenshots of the route, links to Google imagery, then described to me in detail why it was wrong and I couldn't disagree with him. I'm afraid I won't link to his images without his permission.

[jonmorrie]

It sounds like I'll be the sole detractor in this thread of the route itself. I have a friend who lives in the area and last week a few days after the release, he took a train down from West Palm to Miami Airport and back and he hates it. He admits DTG did well right around some of the featured stations, but outside of that the route isn't real close to realistic scenery. I don't simply throw this out here as "well he said..." he backed everything with screenshots of the route, links to Google imagery, then described to me in detail why it was wrong and I couldn't disagree with him. I'm afraid I won't link to his images without his permission.

Thanks for sharing, but without any details or specifics to back that up, your comments are essentially negligible.

[MattW]

It sounds like I'll be the sole detractor in this thread of the route itself. I have a friend who lives in the area and last week a few days after the release, he took a train down from West Palm to Miami Airport and back and he hates it. He admits DTG did well right around some of the featured stations, but outside of that the route isn't real close to realistic scenery. I don't simply throw this out here as "well he said..." he backed everything with screenshots of the route, links to Google imagery, then described to me in detail why it was wrong and I couldn't disagree with him. I'm afraid I won't link to his images without his permission.

Thanks for sharing, but without any details or specifics to back that up, your comments are essentially negligible.

Well, one of the details missed is the extreme lack of traffic. I don't mean I-95 has to have literally 1000 animated vehicles on it, but the screenshots he showed me looked like how you'd expect South Florida with a cat-4 hurricane bearing down. Other than that, the "details" really become the lack of details. Outside the highlighted station areas, there weren't any landmarks, I think one was a major civic center venue with a distinct shape. The Fort Lauderdale airport (very visible from the tracks) just plain looked weird and tiny. I'm afraid I'm reaching the limits of what a 3rd hand account can provide so I'll try to direct him to this thread if he wishes to share his 1st hand account. He did leave a review of the route on Steam.

[The_Garbear]

Well the awful roads have been a problem since forever. That's more of a fundamental issue with the core game than a fault of the route itself.

[plethaus]

There is no route in the game that fully recreates an area such that someone who lives there would find it a 100% true-to-life recreation. You can't expect to find a one-to-one recreation of many miles of terrain and cities for the price they ask, and the timeframe these projects are developed in.

[buzz456]

Jeez yoou guys quit your bitching. Go find something else to do if you are going to look for perfection. It makes me want to quit working on the Lafayette route because one of you are going to discover the Aunt Matildas house is ten feet off center on the lot that you remember from visiting there as a kid.

Give it a rest and go find another hobby.

[ErikGorbiHamilton]

Jeez yoou guys quite your bitching. Go find something else to do if you are going to look for perfection. It makes me want to quit working on the Lafayette route because one of you are going to discover the Aunt Matildas house is ten feet off center on the lot that you remember from visiting there as a kid.

Give it a rest and go find another hobby.

I believe that "bitching and moaning" is OUR hobby. And to be honest this isn't the only route that lacks from its real life counter part. the Seattle sub is a good example of this. I wont bring it up here since this is the Miami route were talking about here.


Every one get over it.

[jonmorrie]

Jeez yoou guys quite your bitching. Go find something else to do if you are going to look for perfection. It makes me want to quit working on the Lafayette route because one of you are going to discover the Aunt Matildas house is ten feet off center on the lot that you remember from visiting there as a kid.

Give it a rest and go find another hobby.

I believe that "bitching and moaning" is OUR hobby. And to be honest this isn't the only route that lacks from its real life counter part. the Seattle sub is a good example of this. I wont bring it up here since this is the Miami route were talking about here.


Every one get over it.

Given you have brought it up (despite saying you hadn't ), that route isn't even made by DTG. But I agree with your last part. Everyone should really get over it.

[ErikGorbiHamilton]

Jeez yoou guys quite your bitching. Go find something else to do if you are going to look for perfection. It makes me want to quit working on the Lafayette route because one of you are going to discover the Aunt Matildas house is ten feet off center on the lot that you remember from visiting there as a kid.

Give it a rest and go find another hobby.

I believe that "bitching and moaning" is OUR hobby. And to be honest this isn't the only route that lacks from its real life counter part. the Seattle sub is a good example of this. I wont bring it up here since this is the Miami route were talking about here.


Every one get over it.

Given you have brought it up (despite saying you hadn't ), that route isn't even made by DTG. But I agree with your last part. Everyone should really get over it.

I meant i was not gonna talk about the routes flaws.

[Antwerp]

As my Signature says.

"It is the reality of the moment that I seek; I do not seek perfection."

Sure, I point flaws out, but for the most part, it's usually with the best of intentions (although the worst things in human history were done with the best of intentions). Otherwise, as long as I enjoy it, I couldn't care less. Just because you hate it doesn't mean the next guy will hate it.

[eyein12]

Jeez yoou guys quite your bitching. Go find something else to do if you are going to look for perfection. It makes me want to quit working on the Lafayette route because one of you are going to discover the Aunt Matildas house is ten feet off center on the lot that you remember from visiting there as a kid.

Give it a rest and go find another hobby.

I believe that "bitching and moaning" is OUR hobby. And to be honest this isn't the only route that lacks from its real life counter part. the Seattle sub is a good example of this. I wont bring it up here since this is the Miami route were talking about here.


Every one get over it.

really? bitching and moaning is certainly not a hobby. its a problem. You have a BIG one if you think that my route(seattle sub) doesnt reflect the real life. every single bridge was replicated from google maps, and streetview. All the buildings were place exactly where they are in real life and replicated from streetview....FROM SCRATCH. not bad from a person who lives in pennsylvania and never stepped foot in that area once. Are you from Seattle? You comment bothers me greatly because you have no concept of apprection for 3 years of work on 1 route. How many routes have you finished and posted? locomotives? anything? Please do so I can comment on the flaws so you know what its like to have a clueless "Hobbiest" give his 2 cents.

I certainly hope you find something that doesnt disappoint you because your in for a rough ride in this game pal.

Ian

[dejoh]

I don't want to start a hassle, but I when I run these videos, I see many recognizable sites from Eyeins The BNSF Seattle Sub.
Take a look.
https://www.youtube.com/user/SeattleRai ... ture=watch

[artimrj]

And with that it is time to bring this to an end, go back to the route in question already and stop bickering.

[philmoberg]

And with that it is time to bring this to an end, go back to the route in question already and stop bickering.

Hear! Hear!

All this griping was enough to prompt me go out and buy the route. I came here to run trains, having worked in train service on a short line, and having done field inspections on parts of the NEC with a subsequent employer, watching the pros running in the Big League, under the same rulebook I qualified under. DTG have been aggressive at supporting their product, particularly over the past couple of years. I'm impressed with a continually improving platform generally, that is well beyond what I'd dared hope for in the early days of MSTS, over a decade and a half ago. We live in an imperfect world, and even the best work is never beyond improvement. At least from where I sit, the situation a whole lot better than it was, and is being deliberately and continually improved by a handful of developers who are continually pushing the envelope. It's a pleasant change from a lot of what I see much of the rest of the world.