Union Pacific EMD SD9043MAC

[Fireexplorer249]

Critique definition: A critique is a written examination and judgment of a situation or of a person's work

That does not include being insulting and doing name calling. Example of name calling:"The quality of North American content now is just pathetic."

Again, I am fully aware of what a critique is. And for as far back as I remember, I have not made a comment here or on Steam where I insult or name call anything or anyone, so I have no idea why you included that. Based on your comment, it appears that this discussion has run its course, how about we go back the the topic at hand. In fact, if you care to comment again, I'd like to know how you feel about this locomotive so far since before you just went to calling people out.

[EngineerJohn]

The exterior model is nothing to complain about.

My issue is that I look at Trainz as the virtual model railroad simulator where it's supposed to be arcade-like. Now there are plenty of people who push that envelope too and make good content but the general feel of the game is just different. Dovetail's game I hold to a higher standard as a "simulator" or train equivalent of a modern flight sim. I think this is a growing consensus among the community as a whole.

Everytime something is in the works by Dovetail or whoever that doesn't have (or appear to have) that immersion factor, it takes away from what I used to think of this game to be compared to others.

In my opinion at least, waiting a longer time for a DLC that will take longer to fully master and be a challenge to run is better than a DLC with a throttle, brakes, horn, and a light switch that is for lack of a better phrase "ready-to-run"

Just looking at the cabview picture. There is a blatant error that was never corrected from the sd80mac and has just been copied and pasted over to the 90mac.

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I had to screenshot this from an sd80mac video but they use the same cab.

[thegevo5k]

Don't critique anything... Lesson learned.

[buzz456]

Look I'm not trying to call people out about presenting the facts but a comment like 'There is a blatant error" is not factual nor helpful. The reason it's not factual is that the vast majority of us would never notice it and if we did it wouldn't be some world class deal breaker. For you purists I have a gentle suggestion. Make some of your own perfect models and either put them through Steam or DTG or through someone else and improve the sim instead of carping about the same stuff over and over. There are plenty of places where it's a major hobby trashing stuff.

We here have tried to concentrate on the creative side of making the sim the best out there. The other strength here has been helping people with problems by a very smart and friendly membership.
If any of you think we practice free speech it is not our goal. Our goal is to have a positive environment encouraging people to create neat stuff to make this hobby more enjoyable and to help people to make this a more rewarding experience. Next time you jump on the keyboard please consider this before posting.

I for one am far from perfect but in my defense herding cats is a difficult task on the best days.

[mindenjohn]

Buzz
Well said.
John

[jalsina]

Stand by for the usual whining about the sounds, physics,lights and on and on. If ya don't like it don't buy it. Period.

Gosh Buzz, I guess we can't be critical of a product. Seems pretty hypocritical of someone who found one flaw on DTM's last product a returned it instantly. Anyway, I'm curious how this one will be compared to Eyein's. Should be interesting.

The loco may be out of this world (in a good sense) when released. But Buzz is commenting based on releases statistics.
You want to compare with Eyein's? Better compare it with Searchlight Simulations locos quality.

[AlcoFan]

Why do many people in the community have such low standards? Can you imagine if a flight simulator developer used portions of an Airbus cockpit on a Boeing airplane? That’s essentially akin to DTG using a GE back wall in an EMD locomotive cab. If you critique an add on though, you are automatically labeled a “rivet counter” or in the “1%.”

[buzz456]

Why do many people in the community have such low standards? Can you imagine if a flight simulator developer used portions of a an Airbus cockpit on a Boeing airplane? That’s essentially akin to DTG using a GE back wall in an EMD locomotive cab. If you critique an add on though, you are automatically labeled a “river counter” or in the “1%.”

I suspect as a long time FS user that the vast majority would never notice and further unless they have stepped it up a notch (I no longer play with FS) a lot of the planes either used totally fictitious cockpits or the wrong ones because no one had made a cockpit for a particular model yet. As in everything the are various levels of accuracy in any sim. I went to recurrent training at a well known accredited flight school one time and did a recurrent in a poorly replicated Cessna 310 cockpit for my recurrent for a Piper P-Navajo. The checkride guy said "If you grab the wrong knobs a couple of times I'll understand". FYI the sim didn't act anything like the real thing.

[DKSspeed]

I'm just happy we still getting DLC. If the sounds are wrong I'm pretty sure the people of this some-what great community would produce freeware sounds (Hopefully not payware) for everybody to enjoy.

[thegevo5k]

...some-what great community...

[Fireexplorer249]

Stand by for the usual whining about the sounds, physics,lights and on and on. If ya don't like it don't buy it. Period.

Gosh Buzz, I guess we can't be critical of a product. Seems pretty hypocritical of someone who found one flaw on DTM's last product a returned it instantly. Anyway, I'm curious how this one will be compared to Eyein's. Should be interesting.

The loco may be out of this world (in a good sense) when released. But Buzz is commenting based on releases statistics.
You want to compare with Eyein's? Better compare it with Searchlight Simulations locos quality.

No I understand that. I'm reserving all judgement on this product until it is released. I only compared it to Eyein's, because he has already released this model previously, Searchlight has not. And plus if I want to compare a DTG product with a Searchlight product, I feel like no matter what, SS will win that.

[buzz456]

I'm just happy we still getting DLC. If the sounds are wrong I'm pretty sure the people of this some-what great community would produce freeware sounds (Hopefully not payware) for everybody to enjoy.

It would be nice but getting sounds on these guys could be quite a challenge since most are in storage or got re-engined back to the 710 prime mover if memory serves. A good 710 sound would be pretty close.

[jalsina]

Stand by for the usual whining about the sounds, physics,lights and on and on. If ya don't like it don't buy it. Period.

Gosh Buzz, I guess we can't be critical of a product. Seems pretty hypocritical of someone who found one flaw on DTM's last product a returned it instantly. Anyway, I'm curious how this one will be compared to Eyein's. Should be interesting.

The loco may be out of this world (in a good sense) when released. But Buzz is commenting based on releases statistics.
You want to compare with Eyein's? Better compare it with Searchlight Simulations locos quality.

No I understand that. I'm reserving all judgement on this product until it is released. I only compared it to Eyein's, because he has already released this model previously, Searchlight has not. And plus if I want to compare a DTG product with a Searchlight product, I feel like no matter what, SS will win that.

[AlcoFan]

I'm just happy we still getting DLC. If the sounds are wrong I'm pretty sure the people of this some-what great community would produce freeware sounds (Hopefully not payware) for everybody to enjoy.

It would be nice but getting sounds on these guys could be quite a challenge since most are in storage or got re-engined back to the 710 prime mover if memory serves. A good 710 sound would be pretty close.

These have a plain old 16-710G3B. The SD9043MACs never had the 6000 HP 265H prime mover, which is a four stroke and sounds very different.

[buzz456]

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_SD90MAC