München - Rosenheim route out now.

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Re: München - Rosenheim route out now.

Unread postby _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:06 pm

i agree with EMD.

Listen to your beta testers findings, don't ignore them. Make things look and work right straight from the start. You'd be surprised how dedicated volunteers can be, a Steam unlock code and line of credit probably being their only reward. They aren't in it for the money but rather for their satisfaction, "I helped making this route as good as it is and I am proud of it".

Take the Metra Aurora line currently under discussion here while it is still in active development. The thread sometimes flames up high in arguments over how this or that should look or be done. With sensible argumentation most disputes are easily settled with "thanks for pointing out that error to us, your suggestion was most helpful and implementation is easy so we'll pick it up " or "thanks for your suggestion, but the game engine doesn't allow it, the effort needed doesn't weigh up, it does look like that for real" etc. In the end I feel both creators and buyers will feel better over the product as it will be generally "better" and satisfies more people's expectations. Once released, perhaps a little bit later than anticipated, there will be less support issues, fewer questions, better financial reward, higher customer satisfaction and in the end better outlooks towards future projects.

I think this is the only proper way towards better and better stuff in the future
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Re: München - Rosenheim route out now.

Unread postby buzz456 » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:23 pm

emd645e3 wrote:
buzz456 wrote:I take this rant opportunity to thank DTG for sticking with this instead of abandoning it like MSTS.


What makes you think MSTS is abandoned? In relations to that statement that is completely inaccurate. MSTS is still alive and is not "abandoned". We may have lost MsTS 2 but we have gained another new engine program called Open Rails. Supports new lighting, easy on the frame rates, compatibility with new graphics cards and operating systems, and multiplayer.

buzz456 wrote:You can but not necessarily on here. This forum is to talk about the fun and creative side of our simulator not a place for "look how smart I am" or "I notice something none of the rest of you see." This is annoying to many people on this forum and while many don't say as much as I do they complain to me about it and I happen to agree with them. If you want to bitch about everything do it on the Steam forums (which I hardly ever look at) or over on that other forum that seems to be populated by people who want to argue and put everything down.


So basically silence the obvious and truth and create a fake euphoria of rainbows and unicorns. Seems legit.


To clarify Microsoft no longer supports MSTS. Therefore it was abandoned.

Second I don't wish to silence ANY constructive suggestions however the constant accusing the people at DTG of not caring blah blah blah blah is just not constructive. As far as their quality control those complaints should be directed to them and has no place here because it's just senseless bitching. Try writing your post with all of the facts with no griping about WHY they didn't do this or that and you will get no complaints from me. In the words of the immortal Joe Friday "Just the facts that's all we need."
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Re: München - Rosenheim route out now.

Unread postby trev123 » Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:26 pm

Hey Buzz I'm with you on this moaning issue, I don't like it either and it does scare people away. Take Traimsim.com always a lot of moaning and not many people visit the RW section. Some there are starting to sound like a cracked record saying the same old things over and over again. Won't say any more as this is getting off topic. :)
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Re: München - Rosenheim route out now.

Unread postby GSkid » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:21 am

Well I'm in the pro-moan contingent I guess. Just avoid this route or take a chance and refund it quick. The Steam refund system is the perfect way for developers to get the message. *!greengrin!*
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Re: München - Rosenheim route out now.

Unread postby spartantrain32 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:02 pm

all the moaners i applaud to, for they help me avoid this and that until issues are resolved. Thank you all.
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Re: München - Rosenheim route out now.

Unread postby buzz456 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:45 pm

spartantrain32 wrote:all the moaners i applaud to, for they help me avoid this and that until issues are resolved. Thank you all.


All you need to do is go to the Steam pages if you wish to know what's wrong with everything. I repeat that is not the purpose of this site.
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