Pacific Surfliner Coming Soon!

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Re: Pacific Surfliner Coming Soon!

Unread postby arizonachris » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:25 pm

fecrails wrote:Angels Stadium! Nice attention to important landmarks. !!*ok*!!


Yeah, but no big A with the halo around the top. Maybe a licensing issue?
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Re: Pacific Surfliner Coming Soon!

Unread postby buzz456 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:06 pm

arizonachris wrote:
fecrails wrote:Angels Stadium! Nice attention to important landmarks. !!*ok*!!


Yeah, but no big A with the halo around the top. Maybe a licensing issue?


Once again that makes no sense to me. It is a public landmark and the sign is there. Why would it need to be licensed? If you took a photo, blew it up and went to sell it at a art show, you are trying to tell me that you would have to pay a license fee to the Angels? I think not.
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Re: Pacific Surfliner Coming Soon!

Unread postby dejoh » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:19 pm

Sounds like their (RW) deathly afraid of the potential lawsuits that might pop up 6 months to a year from now from copy write infringements !*don-know!*
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Re: Pacific Surfliner Coming Soon!

Unread postby 1225fan5358 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:43 pm

dejoh wrote:Sounds like their (RW) deathly afraid of the potential lawsuits that might pop up 6 months to a year from now from copy write infringements !*don-know!*

Or even some trademark issues.
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Re: Pacific Surfliner Coming Soon!

Unread postby GSkid » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:43 pm

RvA944 wrote:Nope the Post Office is a private company, just like the Federal Reserve. So yeah they're open


Actually they are more like a pseudo/hybrid private company. They have to adhere to some rules and regulations like a government agency that private companies don't have to. Think of them as 2 parts private, 1 part governmental.


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Re: Pacific Surfliner Coming Soon!

Unread postby imphantum » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:22 pm

Did ATSF or SP use this line back in the day? I'm gonna say ATSF but I think there were parts that SP used too...
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Re: Pacific Surfliner Coming Soon!

Unread postby BNSFdude » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:29 pm

ATSF. SP crosses in quite a few spots though.
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Re: Pacific Surfliner Coming Soon!

Unread postby arizonachris » Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:33 pm

Been from LA to San Diego and back many a time but was at least 20 years ago. They had the older tin can style cars not these Super Double Decker cars like today. I couldn't tell you what the engines were. I used to point and laugh at the cars stuck in traffic on the nearby 5 freeway. "Losers"!! A bunch of us would go down to SD for the weekend, go to Sea World, take the Red Car to the border, go to the Navy shipyard, tour the ships, stopped at every bar we could find. Those were the days, less than $70 round trip. Can't touch that now. !**duh*!!
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Re: Pacific Surfliner Coming Soon!

Unread postby 1225fan5358 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:20 pm

arizonachris wrote:Been from LA to San Diego and back many a time but was at least 20 years ago. They had the older tin can style cars not these Super Double Decker cars like today. I couldn't tell you what the engines were. I used to point and laugh at the cars stuck in traffic on the nearby 5 freeway. "Losers"!! A bunch of us would go down to SD for the weekend, go to Sea World, take the Red Car to the border, go to the Navy shipyard, tour the ships, stopped at every bar we could find. Those were the days, less than $70 round trip. Can't touch that now. !**duh*!!

San Diegan with an F40 or P32-BWH, P42s were rare until the F59PHIs came about. And 4-8 Amfleets. Those really were "the days." Even though I'm not that old almost anything is better than trying to railfan post-9/11. The route has quite a bit of Santa Fe in it still today...surprisingly. And when it comes to travel security..."I just caught a terrorist!" Said no TSA agent or railroad employee ever. Yes, having been on the 5 freeway I know that traffic is a you know what. 90mph behind a F59PHI sounds better to me :)
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Re: Pacific Surfliner Coming Soon!

Unread postby jmslakings » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:58 am

I really never liked the Amfleet passenger car's. I thought the window's where always too small. It would feel like I was in an airplane or in some underwater vehicle. If you wanted to see something outside you couldn't unless you had the "window seat" !*hp*!
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Re: Pacific Surfliner Coming Soon!

Unread postby Darpor » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:31 pm

buzz456 wrote:If you took a photo, blew it up and went to sell it at a art show, you are trying to tell me that you would have to pay a license fee to the Angels? I think not.
!*hp*!


I agree, in that they probably wouldn't bother pursuing it. But the fact is, they could, and the same would apply here. The logo is under copyright.

It's no different than having a branch of McDonalds or a Wal-Mart superstore in game, and I'm sure nobody would seriously expect that?
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Re: Pacific Surfliner Coming Soon!

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:53 pm

Darpor wrote:
buzz456 wrote:If you took a photo, blew it up and went to sell it at a art show, you are trying to tell me that you would have to pay a license fee to the Angels? I think not.
!*hp*!


I agree, in that they probably wouldn't bother pursuing it. But the fact is, they could, and the same would apply here. The logo is under copyright.

It's no different than having a branch of McDonalds or a Wal-Mart superstore in game, and I'm sure nobody would seriously expect that?


We are getting pretty far afield here however:Pictures of copyrighted buildings are not considered derivative works, unless the country it is photographed in does not have freedom of panorama provisions (such as France or Italy). In United States copyright law though, "The copyright in an architectural work that has been constructed does not prevent the making, distributing, or public display of pictures, paintings, photographs, or other pictorial representations of the work – but only if the building in which the work is embodied is located in or ordinarily visible from a public place
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Re: Pacific Surfliner Coming Soon!

Unread postby Darpor » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:56 pm

I'm not talking about the building though, I thought the subject was the 'A' which was part of the logo, which is under copyright.
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Re: Pacific Surfliner Coming Soon!

Unread postby imphantum » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:45 pm

Some exclusive screens from the newsletter;
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sanjuancapistranostation.jpg
sanclementepier.jpg
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One of the thumbnails also showed a rear car with ditchlights and headlights, so I'm guessing this confirms cab cars?
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Re: Pacific Surfliner Coming Soon!

Unread postby dejoh » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:57 pm

Kinda doing the route backwards, but pretty good idea of the upcoming route.
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