Smokebox Challenger due for release. See article in the link below.

[AmericanSteam]

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[trev123]

I'm a bit disappointed in this as I was expecting some scenarios to come with it for the Clinchfield Railway.

[buzz456]

I'm a bit disappointed in this as I was expecting some scenarios to come with it for the Clinchfield Railway.

Boo hoo.

[AmericanSteam]

I'm a bit disappointed in this as I was expecting some scenarios to come with it for the Clinchfield Railway.

I don't think that there was any mention of "possible" scenarios that would come with this update. Everything that I read in pre release was delivered.

[trev123]

A scenario pack might come out.

[AmericanSteam]

Just a quick question, I copied one of the free roam scenarios on the Clinchfield route and added the 3900 series Challenger from Smokebox in place of diesels and there are no Clinchfield road names on any of the rolling stock 80 ton hoppers and caboose). I have the US version.

[Mikeov1985]

Just a quick question, I copied one of the free roam scenarios on the Clinchfield route and added the 3900 series Challenger from Smokebox in place of diesels and there are no Clinchfield road names on any of the rolling stock 80 ton hoppers and caboose). I have the US version.

What’s the question?

[buzz456]

Just a quick question, I copied one of the free roam scenarios on the Clinchfield route and added the 3900 series Challenger from Smokebox in place of diesels and there are no Clinchfield road names on any of the rolling stock 80 ton hoppers and caboose). I have the US version.

I concur no road markings.

[AmericanSteam]

Just a quick question, I copied one of the free roam scenarios on the Clinchfield route and added the 3900 series Challenger from Smokebox in place of diesels and there are no Clinchfield road names on any of the rolling stock 80 ton hoppers and caboose). I have the US version.

I concur no road markings.

I swapped some CCR reskins of Greatnortherner's 55T hoppers and a reskin of a ATSF caboose of his from the file library. All looks much better now. Why no road markings on the Clinchfield stock that came with the route?

[EngineerTJ]

I wonder how the performance of a Heavy Challenger compares to the performance of the Pennsylvania Railroad's Q2 locomotive. I believe the Q2 was extremely underrated as a locomotive considering how powerful it was, but could it do the same job as the Challengers? Or is that an unfair comparison given the difference in the regions each were meant to work on?

[FanRailer]

I wonder how the performance of a Heavy Challenger compares to the performance of the Pennsylvania Railroad's Q2 locomotive. I believe the Q2 was extremely underrated as a locomotive considering how powerful it was, but could it do the same job as the Challengers? Or is that an unfair comparison given the difference in the regions each were meant to work on?

Eastern coal burners tend to have an edge on western power, owing to the higher quality coal in the east. On paper, the Q2 definitely has the challenger beat, but you are correct in stating that comparing the two would be a little pointless. What works for one road does not necessarily work for another.

[EngineerJohn]

Hands down a Q2 is much more powerful in every respect than a UP heavy challenger. Problem is that the Q2 would effectively need a small coal train following it wherever it went it was so fuel hungry. So yes it could pull, but not very efficiently. Stats wise a Q2 is closer to a Big Boy or Alleghany than any Challenger.

UP engines (late era steam especially) had a better combination of speed and power than other railroads which makes them better all around but not particularly specialized including the challengers. Eastern railroad engines were generally either all speed in the mid west or all pulling power in Appalachia. You vary the sacrifices of one for the other in different combinations.