Computer advice

[CASO]

i am looking to gat a new computer, for one thing, to run TS2018 and TSW better. Would this run things better on either game so I can perhaps increase the graphics and have better frame rates? https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.a ... 6883227771

[ssbobz]

I don't know much about the AMD processors anymore but for that price I think it should include a better GPU, a 1050 or 1060 should be good.

[KevinWS]

Are you looking for a desktop or laptop?

Dell do a nice laptop with an I7 processor which runs to 3.8 ghtz 8mb memory (you can double it), and an Nvidia Grafics card with 2mb memory. 1 tb drive.

It is a high end office machine in terms of deign, but very capable at a keen price.

In South Africa it costs 850 US - it cannot be that much more expensive in the USA or wherever you are.

[CASO]

Are you looking for a desktop or laptop?

Dell do a nice laptop with an I7 processor which runs to 3.8 ghtz 8mb memory (you can double it), and an Nvidia Grafics card with 2mb memory. 1 tb drive.

It is a high end office machine in terms of deign, but very capable at a keen price.

In South Africa it costs 850 US - it cannot be that much more expensive in the USA or wherever you are.

Thanks, but I am more interested in a desktop.

[buzz456]

You really should consider building your own. It's a lot of fun, not that hard, and rewarding when you are done. It's just a matter of plugging a bunch of stuff together and there a zillion tutorials online to help. Last but not least it will save you a ton of money.

[KevinWS]

If you are going for a desktop Buzz is spot on....

[CArailroader]

....... Last but not least it will save you a ton of money.

Until you see and buy the latest graphics card that comes out, then you decide you might as well upgrade your motherboard and CPU while you're at it... and heck a few more Gigs of RAM never killed anyone.

[BoostedFridge]

For TSW, that computer looks a little shy on firepower. If you are going to spend that kind of money, I'd try to get something with at least a GTX1060 card (nvidia) or RX460 (Radeon)

[thegevo5k]

You really should consider building your own. It's a lot of fun, not that hard, and rewarding when you are done. It's just a matter of plugging a bunch of stuff together and there a zillion tutorials online to help. Last but not least it will save you a ton of money.

The problem with that is that graphics cards are getting harder to come by at lower prices.

[CArailroader]

You really should consider building your own. It's a lot of fun, not that hard, and rewarding when you are done. It's just a matter of plugging a bunch of stuff together and there a zillion tutorials online to help. Last but not least it will save you a ton of money.

The problem with that is that graphics cards are getting harder to come by at lower prices.

That is thanks to cryptocurrency (did I spell that right??) mining, they are buying up high end graphics cards just for the extra computing power thereby driving up the demand and cost. Once the hype wears off and the bubble bursts, I will get a new graphics card, but until then I'm not paying extra for them....

[KevinWS]

Boostedfridge - for TSW it would be shy.

Forgot that was included in the original question. I was thinking of TS - can't afford to run TSW so tend not to focus on it.

[imnew]

To OP. That pc looks good but as Boosted pointed out TSW demands "more"...TSW requires a lot of horsepower.. I love TSW, now that its up and running perfectly. But to get TSW to run perfectly I had to take on some extra overtime at work and I also had to give up a lot of other "fun" stuff in order to afford my latest pc upgrade. To run TSW with every setting on max and have it run smoothly I ended up with the rig in my sig... I had to do the upgrade anyway because I run a lot of VR stuff so..

[_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha]

At the present. buying a high performance nVidia card will set you back a very large sum. AMD's probably too.

Bitcoin miners have bought all the present supplies and future stock, driving retail prices to ridiculous heights.

Don't know about laptop chipsets.

Yes, TSW requires a upper midrange to top range video card.

[GSkid]

You know... when I see these tech articles and Youtube videos of people crying about the high cost of GPU cards due to the mining craze (some suggesting desperate gamers might look at getting one of the new Ryzen APUs), I scratch my head when almost none of them bring up the fact that you can get a gaming laptop with a GPU that in most cases is about equal to the desktop in performance and worst case scenario is at most 10% slower. Since miners are using desktop GPUs, the mobile ones are not jacked up in price.

Other than being cheaper to build (and easier to upgrade the CPU and GPU), I don't understand why most gamers still buy desktops. You can basically get the same ballpark desktop performance in a computer that is also very portable. You can even get laptops like the ones from Sager that have fully unlocked desktop-class 95W 6-core i7-8700K processors in them, up to a GTX 1080 (even two in SLI) and high refresh displays built-in. Some also allow upgrading of the CPU and GPU for the future. You can just use the laptop as the brains box and hook up your desktop gaming keyboard, mouse, external monitor and ....if you like....even use a desktop graphics card in an box enclosure via a ThunderBolt 3 port while you use it at your home.

My brand new replacement HP Omen X laptop with it's GTX 1080 GPU and 144Hz 1080p G-Sync display runs just about everything I throw at it smooth as butter at high and ultra settings. You should at least consider a gaming laptop if you get desperate. The price premium of a laptop gaming build VERSUS a normally cheaper desktop build.... is certainly a lot cheaper than building a desktop with the currently price gouged desktop GPUs in them. You get a majority of the desktop performance at a fraction of the current desktop price.

I have heard stories online that some computer shops will sell you desktop video cards at MSRP... IF... you buy most or all of the other components from them to build your computer. This allows them to give gamers a break from the high GPU prices, while still making up some of the money that they lose by not selling it high priced to a crypto-miner. I'd seriously look into it. Otherwise...considering the current high markup on desktop graphics cards, you could instead get the same GPU in a laptop and have extra money to spare for whatever you want to do with it.

[KevinWS]

GSkid - you have put it really well.

I agree 100% - and that's exactly what I do incidentally - put the Laptop to one side, after hooking it up to dual screens, and a gaming keyboard and mouse (all of which I use for everyday work as well).

The idea of buying a desktop so it can be upgraded never worked out in practice. The cards were so expensive eventually it was easier and cheaper to go for a laptop at 75% of the card and get something similar plus an upgraded processor.

And laptops can be upgraded to a degree - hard drives and memory all make a difference if sensibly chosen.

Plus after you upgrade a laptop you still have the old one - quite capable for everyday tasks and travelling.