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Nvidia Driver Warning

Unread postby Ericmopar » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:18 am

I was just over at the Nvidia company forums and the latest drivers are causing some people to have catastrophic GPU failure.
It's the 368 series and most of the complaints are from Windows 10 users, combined with owners of 700 and 900 series cards.
All the reports were from Windows 10 users, at least the ones I read, so I don't know if this is affecting the Windows 7 and 8 people or not.


This is why I always use something like MSI afterburner. I don't overclock my GPUs, but there is useful monitoring software that comes with it, in the form of Riva Tuner Statistics Server.
I use that software always in the sim to keep and eye on usage and temperatures.
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Re: Nvidia Driver Warning

Unread postby trev123 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:20 am

No problems for me using the latest Nvidia Drivers.
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Re: Nvidia Driver Warning

Unread postby Ericmopar » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:04 am

They're still trying to figure out why some are affected and some aren't.
I haven't read any complaints from 1000 series owners, just the 700 and 900 cards so far.
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Re: Nvidia Driver Warning

Unread postby imnew » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:36 am

Thanks for the warning Eric. I wonder why some users are affected and others are fine.. Im running a ( overclock MSI Afterburner ) 980 card with the latest drivers and have not experienced any problems. Windows 7 64bit.
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Re: Nvidia Driver Warning

Unread postby jalsina » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:41 am

Thanks Eric. I better stay out for a while.
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Re: Nvidia Driver Warning

Unread postby peterhayes » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:18 pm

Eric
We need to clarify this.
For drivers, NVidia now issue a specific driver for Windows 10 AND a separate driver for Win 7,8, etc
So if you get more info it would be good to know if there is a difference wrt error between the 2.
I have 368.81 installed on 3 separate PC's and everything is fine (Windows 10).
NVidia have issued a bug hot fix for Pascal GPU's (DPC Latency) in the last 2 hours but no mention of any issue with pre-Pascal GPU's or specifically Windows 10.
I can't see what you reported on this site: https://forums.geforce.com/default/boar ... e-drivers/ what is the URL where you saw this info?
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Re: Nvidia Driver Warning

Unread postby Ericmopar » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:57 am

Got me...
Last night I stumbled across the comments when looking up some Windows 10 and drivers info. !*don-know!*
There were 3 whole threads on the subject, which was that some people had their GPUs burn up after updating to 368.xxx driver.
It wasn't everyone though. Some said they were fine, some said they were experiencing crashing and others said their GPU went full tilt and fried.
There is in fact a "hot fix" driver that was released very recently, but it doesn't seem to mention the GPU load issue.
Of course there is the possibility that Nvidia fixed it and doesn't want to admit to what would be a very expensive claim process.
There were too many people posting about it for me to think it was just some troll.
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Re: Nvidia Driver Warning

Unread postby peterhayes » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:49 pm

Eric
Thanks for looking - appreciate it. It's always good to know about these issues. !!*ok*!!
No issues with my Pascal card - hotfix for latency applied - works well in TS.
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Re: Nvidia Driver Warning

Unread postby Ericmopar » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:49 pm

I had to go to a newer driver finally because I decided to give Windows 10 a try. My Train Simulator seems to be fine, although I am getting a strange and wild display of colors against a black background for a second when I first load up the game. It happens right before the loading screen comes up.
I still have a GTX780, but the commenters around the interweb think Nvidia isn't supporting 3 year old cards as well as in the past.
My GTX 780 actually runs best on an older 344.775 driver, but there isn't a Windows 10 version of that.
The older driver actually seems to run fine, but Windows 10 insists on updating it to at least a 353.xxx version. In the process they break the G-Force Experience, so I went and got the newest full driver package.
Microsoft updates the driver but not the other things like Phys-X or G-Force Experience. From what I gather reading over at Nvidia's website over the years, those things are designed to go with each other as a package.
What I want but can't quite afford right now is a 1070. The huge pixle output should let me run really high AA without the card breaking a sweat.

As a side note Peter, I didn't have to enable the PCI-E 3.0 with Win 10.
I did have to let the OS search for updated intel drivers, by each individual device in Device Manager though. The proper drivers were available online from Microsoft, but they didn't install them with the new install of Win 10. They just installed some generic drivers. !*don-know!*
My PC is definately running best with IRST driver 12.9.xx and the proper intel drivers for my z77 board.
The same is true of a proper Windows 10 Realtek audio driver from my Mobo's maker.

I have to give Microsoft credit for one thing. The MS generic drivers work better out of the "box" than in previous years. A person will still benefit by installing proper drivers though. Assuming they (MS) leaves them alone. *!rolleyes!*
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Re: Nvidia Driver Warning

Unread postby buzz456 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:57 pm

I am sooo happy with my win7 Professional and no issues or warnings or any problems.
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Re: Nvidia Driver Warning

Unread postby Ericmopar » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:59 pm

buzz456 wrote:I am sooo happy with my win7 Professional and no issues or warnings or any problems.


Same with Windows 7 Home x64. I would have installed a Dual Boot but I didn't want to spend the money for an activation code.
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Re: Nvidia Driver Warning

Unread postby buzz456 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:07 pm

I'm a natural born RW fan who doesn't like a lot of the hassles others seem to have. Life with TS is pretty good here and that's the only thing I do on this machine other than painting.
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Re: Nvidia Driver Warning

Unread postby peterhayes » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:31 pm

Eric
Drivers for either windows 10 and separate for win 7 only appeared around/after the 353.xx series before that any driver would work in all variations of Windows including Win 10. The 350.12 was a "good" driver for win 10, 7, 8, 8.1, etc..
Interesting that MS want to update you to the 353.xx series! :D Yes, MS does leave "non-MS" drivers alone especially if they are the latest ones.

The 1070 is quite a card, plus it needs a lower power supply than say the GTX970. It runs TS2016 on very high SSAA settings with most sliders (not shadows) full right.

Hope all goes well.
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Re: Nvidia Driver Warning

Unread postby Ericmopar » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:20 pm

They aren't leaving my drivers alone...
They won't let me run my desired GPU driver and I just figured out they are changing my Realtek HD audio driver behind my back.
The version of the Realtek driver I installed shows up in Programs and Features, but the actual driver number in device manager is the one from the Microsoft one. !*hp*!
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Re: Nvidia Driver Warning

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