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SSD or mechanical drive?

Unread postPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:42 pm
by JohnS
I'm currently running TS on a SSD partition but haven't noticed a difference in game play. Is it safe to say that the bandwidth between the two drives doesn't effect the game play?

Re: SSD or mechanical drive?

Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 1:37 am
by _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha
JohnS wrote:I'm currently running TS on a SSD partition but haven't noticed a difference in game play. Is it safe to say that the bandwidth between the two drives doesn't effect the game play?


A SSD is noticeably faster on loading data, but once the data is in your computers memory, i.e. after Windows startup or starting Railworks, the SSD sort of idles. Its greater bandwith is of most use when loading and saving lots of data.

When talking about Railworks, the route, startup trains and surrounding scenery load quickly off the SSD. Once you start driving your train it crosses scenery tile boundaries. New scenery must be loaded into memory, and here the SSD again plays to its strengths, it loads the new scenery much faster.
Usually, when a slow HDD is being used, there could be stutter and even small pauses (freeze) when the next tile full of new scenery is being loaded. With the SSD, these pauses are hardly noticeable.

Re: SSD or mechanical drive?

Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:21 am
by JohnS
_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha wrote:
JohnS wrote:I'm currently running TS on a SSD partition but haven't noticed a difference in game play. Is it safe to say that the bandwidth between the two drives doesn't effect the game play?


A SSD is noticeably faster on loading data, but once the data is in your computers memory, i.e. after Windows startup or starting Railworks, the SSD sort of idles. Its greater bandwith is of most use when loading and saving lots of data.

When talking about Railworks, the route, startup trains and surrounding scenery load quickly off the SSD. Once you start driving your train it crosses scenery tile boundaries. New scenery must be loaded into memory, and here the SSD again plays to its strengths, it loads the new scenery much faster.
Usually, when a slow HDD is being used, there could be stutter and even small pauses (freeze) when the next tile full of new scenery is being loaded. With the SSD, these pauses are hardly noticeable.

I still get the little stutters on certain routes but I'm wondering if it has to do with my video card settings. I have tried to tweak the settings but I can't seem to find a happy medium.

My specs:
GIGABYTE GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600
Intel Xeon E3-1231V3 Haswell 3.4GHz 8MB L3 Cache
SAMSUNG 850 EVO MZ-75E250B/AM 2.5" 250GB SATA III 3-D Vertical
PNY VCGGTX7602XPB-OC GeForce GTX 760 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0

Re: SSD or mechanical drive?

Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 8:56 am
by buzz456
John are getting stutter when you change tiles (loading new scenery) or when you get in a area of high scenery density?

Re: SSD or mechanical drive?

Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:37 am
by JohnS
buzz456 wrote:John are getting stutter when you change tiles (loading new scenery) or when you get in a area of high scenery density?

It seems to me that when it's loading the next tile. Like distant terrain. Funny thing is the lower I turn the distant terrain the more it happens. Happens real bad on the NEC NY-NH. Density must play a part in it. Maybe try turning down the density of the scenery? I just feel like I'm losing something when I turn down settings

Re: SSD or mechanical drive?

Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:00 am
by plethaus
The super detailed routes like Soldier Summit or NY-NH will have a noticeable stutter when loading new tiles. That's just how the TS2015 engine operates.

Re: SSD or mechanical drive?

Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:00 am
by buzz456
I looked back at you original post and you say that you are running TS on the SSD. Is the entire thing files and all there? I have a SSD and a 2 gig video card and rarely get any stutter except once in a while when loading distant scenery. My entire Steam file is on the SSD.

Re: SSD or mechanical drive?

Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:09 pm
by JohnS
buzz456 wrote:I looked back at you original post and you say that you are running TS on the SSD. Is the entire thing files and all there? I have a SSD and a 2 gig video card and rarely get any stutter except once in a while when loading distant scenery. My entire Steam file is on the SSD.

Yes everything is on the ssd. I have it partitioned 100gb for the OS and program stuff. Then a 150gb side as a "game drive". It has my full steam install also MSTS and Open Rails.

Re: SSD or mechanical drive?

Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:43 pm
by buzz456
Then I suggest the stutter issue is with your video card not the SSD.

Re: SSD or mechanical drive?

Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:19 pm
by JohnS
buzz456 wrote:Then I suggest the stutter issue is with your video card not the SSD.

well that sucks. I got it in 2013 and I don't know if I can convince Bank-O-Wife that I would like a new one. I do some searching and reading see if there is anything I can do. What type of video card are you using?

Re: SSD or mechanical drive?

Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:31 pm
by buzz456
I have a GTX760 2gig on this machine and a GTX650ti boost on my other one. Both do a very nice job.

Re: SSD or mechanical drive?

Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:50 pm
by JohnS
buzz456 wrote:I have a GTX760 2gig on this machine and a GTX650ti boost on my other one. Both do a very nice job.

well I have the same card. I wonder if I just have to tune the settings differently then what is there.

Re: SSD or mechanical drive?

Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:09 pm
by peterhayes
You might have different sized monitors??
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