Railworks America

I got myself a new toy, in the form of a GTX 780.
All I can say is the graphics are noticeably better but still can't run on Highest settings.
I chose running 2x2 SSAA instead of higher scenery etc settings, because the aliasing makes me nuts.
I tried running 8x MSAA but it doesn't seem to make a difference over 4x.

Awe man, don't tell me that!!!!!!!!!
I just purchased a GTX 780 Ti Superclocked 20 mins ago on Amazon....................

Keep in mind you have to have some good "other" hardware to back up your card. Like mega processor, RAM, mobo, HDD. You know the drill. Putting a big block Chevy in a Fiat don't mean it's going to run right.....

Try using FXAA in the Nvidia Control panel, instead of those other archaic forms of AA. Nvidia developed the FXAA especially for their cards. Much less of a performance hit than with regular AA. I went from 4x FSAA to 4x FXAA and gained about 10 frames with no jaggies. (unless it's a really old route like Cajon. Nothing seems to fix that) You shouldn't get the micro stutter that SLI or (more prevalently) Crossfire setups can induce.

XDriver wrote:Keep in mind you have to have some good "other" hardware to back up your card. Like mega processor, RAM, mobo, HDD. You know the drill. Putting a big block Chevy in a Fiat don't mean it's going to run right.....

While that's true, that isn't the case here.
My CPU is still only running about 50% feeding this thing.
i5 3570k at stock clockings. It stays cool so usually runs up to 3.8ghz no problem.
MSI Z77A GD65 mainboard.
8GB Corsair vengence LP 1600 RAM
2 SSDs to feed it and the CPU.
Thermaltake SMART series 850 watt supply.

It only runs 57 - 60C at full load and 1050mhz. The GPU stays cool, so it usually stays at the higher of two clockings. Another words it runs in boost most of the time.

I laughed when I found out the 780ti is faster than the Titan... and cheaper.
There is some oddball program thing the Titan can still do though.

Importz2k1 wrote:Awe man, don't tell me that!!!!!!!!!
I just purchased a GTX 780 Ti Superclocked 20 mins ago on Amazon....................

I'll be interested to see what your experiences are with that card.
A word of warning, I found out the hard way, that a person needs to remove the old drivers for the GPU first, then remove the old card and put in the GTX 780. Otherwise you may end up with a black screen...
It can make it very difficult to install the new card...

After you delete the old drivers from Programs and Features, you may want to hunt down the Nvidia folders (3) and manually delete them.
I just confirmed for myself, that Nvidia's "clean install" option doesn't do a good job of that anymore.

Interesting. I'm running a GTX 760, settings not much above default, and the game looks awesome with no performance issues. I'm even running the Southern Rails route with god-awfully dense 3DTrains forresty and 6 high poly GP40-2's (photo is on the VRC CSX page). My other specs are similar to yours, except I have 16GB of memory (vengeance) and are running Railworks off a 240GB SSD.

Ericmopar wrote:

Importz2k1 wrote:Awe man, don't tell me that!!!!!!!!!
I just purchased a GTX 780 Ti Superclocked 20 mins ago on Amazon....................

I'll be interested to see what your experiences are with that card.
A word of warning, I found out the hard way, that a person needs to remove the old drivers for the GPU first, then remove the old card and put in the GTX 780. Otherwise you may end up with a black screen...
It can make it very difficult to install the new card...

After you delete the old drivers from Programs and Features, you may want to hunt down the Nvidia folders (3) and manually delete them.
I just confirmed for myself, that Nvidia's "clean install" option doesn't do a good job of that anymore.

Will do Eric, I found a good video on how to look for and remove all AMD folders and drivers. This will be my first ever Nvidia card, always been an AMD fan. So here's to new beginnings!

Ericmopar wrote:There is some oddball program thing the Titan can still do though.

Yes, it's called Folding @ Home. The Titan is the best single card for running that program. It's cancer and other research for Stanford University, I've been running it since 2006 on all my PC's (I once had six, now down to two). My EVGA GTX670 2Gb has been running at 100% GPU usage since it was new, about four years now, never misses a beat. (yeah, you do pause Folding when gaming). The number of CUDA cores that Titan has is staggering. Wish I could afford one.

Eric
This is just an opinion but I believe that your cpu (mobo too) is throttling that card ie it can't deliver data fast enough for the card to display.
That card needs at least an i7 4770K overclocked to around 4.4GHz coupled with fast RAM eg 2100 or above plus a Z87 motherboard.
Its all about balance!

The NVidia clean install driver system is working fine for me all the registry entries seem correct after using it.

Just an opinion.
pH

What's dragging me down is that I don't like screen tearing or jaggies. So the thing has V-Sync and 2X2SSAA enabled.
I had to stop and think about this. In the areas where the GTX660 would drop to 15fps and probably lower (with the same settings I'm using now) the GTX 780 is now doing 25 - 30fps. The rest of the time it maintains over 60fps and can maintain V-Sync. So, yeah, it's twice as powerful as advertised.
I guess from reading other threads over the years, others don't mind that "micro stutter" as I call it in the near field of view when things go under 60fps on my rig.
I've been told that might actually be the monitor not talking to the card. I've only read it in one forum, but this guy was saying that's the difference between a good $300 TN panel and a cheap $150 TN panel (mine) monitor. Supposedly the monitor, if it's a good one, will talk to the GPU so it doesn't feed it too many frames when below the refresh rate. Maybe a better term would be, not feed it overlapping frames when below the refresh rate.
Strangely enough my fps are higher in 2X2 SSAA, than with 8X MSAA enabled, and things look a lot better.

I can't enable 4X FXAA in the Nvidia Control Panel, to that must be something Chris is doing with Nvidia Inspector.

Eric
You've got an IB rig so why don't you use Lucid Logix MVP software to fix the vsync issue ?
It seems to work with fewer resources than in NVI/NV CP
I've never seen a 4 x FXAA in NVI - (there is a 4 x SGSS) - there's only an option (as in Nvidia CP) to use or not use FXAA,
IMHO you are better off without FXAA as it tends to blur distant images.
The best settings that I see with a GTX 770 are:
in NVidia CP
Set up the max AA and AF settings in NVidia CP, enhance the application and apply
then go to adjust image with preview and choose let the 3D application decide - apply (setting the best graphics settings you can have within TS2014).
That gives a very good image with minimum moire patterns and shimmering OHW.
Downsampling the native monitor resolution of around 1.3/1.4x can also help and your powerful card could handle that easily.
However, it will vary from rig to rig.
pH

Sorry about that, Eric. pH is right, it is just a "toggle" on/ off for FXAA. And if you're thinking that it might be the monitor, you want an IPS, not a TN. all TN's are "cheap" compared to the tech in an In Plane Switching monitor. They aren't really that much more than a TN. 27" IPS for under $300 at New Egg.

Chris that makes more sense now. Thanks.

As far as Lucid's software, that is supported on my mother board, but when I installed it a few months back, it turned out it's meant for use with certain software only.
It didn't seem to like TS 2013.
I just looked up the VirtueMPV and I think they might have added Intel to the compatible hardware. It used to say AMD systems, so maybe I should take a second look.
I just remembered... That software messed with my system last time and I had to reinstall the video drivers and/or the OS. I can't remember exactly what happened, just that it was a bad experience.

arizonachris wrote:Sorry about that, Eric. pH is right, it is just a "toggle" on/ off for FXAA. And if you're thinking that it might be the monitor, you want an IPS, not a TN. all TN's are "cheap" compared to the tech in an In Plane Switching monitor. They aren't really that much more than a TN. 27" IPS for under $300 at New Egg.

I've been looking at a IPS monitor since the prices have come down. I keep reading though that they aren't good for gaming, that the reaction times are too slow and create blurring.
Supposedly the higher end TN monitors are better for gaming still.