Windows 10 & Nvidia GPUs: WARNING!!

[trev123]

Yes to your first question.

[GSkid]

Well if it's not the tracer issue then I don't know what "9" screen issue you guys are talking about. I again just loaded up the sim with 2x2 SSAA on and no map issues.

Played Borderlands 2 last night. It's always been a pretty stable game but it crashes every once in a blue moon. Last night was the first time a crash resulted in a popup message telling me my Nvidia driver was no longer working. It only crashed in the game as far as I could tell. All was well elsewhere.

My on-screen keyboard still crashes fairly often. How they screwed that up when it worked very well in 7 & 8 is beyond me. But I will admit that 10 as a whole is running pretty well. I don't like some of 10's apps. I much prefer good ol' Windows Media Player to watch videos than the new "Movies & TV" app. So I changed the video file opening properties so they won't use that app anymore.

[trev123]

Did you move the map around ?

[GSkid]

Did you move the map around ?

Yes... but I just now figured out something. I normally have the sim set to borderless cuz screen tearing (what v-sync normally fixes) is eliminated in this mode. But I just happen to have it in fullscreen mode because when I was testing out Nvidia ShadowPlay in the sim recently ...it either... didn't record video... OR..... wouldn't display Nvidia's FPS counter (can't recall which was the case) if the sim was in borderless mode. After testing successful in full screen mode, I forgot to switch it back to borderless mode later.

So in Full screen mode.... no tracers when I move the map. In borderless mode... the tracers are back in full force.

[trev123]

What you call full screen mode is known as Window mode and bordless as Full screen mode. :)

[GSkid]

What you call full screen mode is known as Window mode and bordless as Full screen mode. :)

That is incorrect. Full screen mode is when an application forcibly takes over the entire screen and is only visible within that specific application. Borderless mode is just a borderless window for the application that is full screen resolution in size and is made to be the top active window on the windows desktop. Windowed mode is the application put in a bordered window and is typically not full screen resolution in size.

To prove the difference between full screen mode and borderless mode as being an app controlled screen VS. it being an app in a borderless window.... here's how you can tell...

Put TS2015 in full screen mode and load up a scenario. Once loaded, tap the Windows key that is left of the space bar. Your sim screen will completely disappear and will be replaced by your desktop screen. Click the sim's taskbar icon and poof... it once again takes control of the screen completely away from the windows desktop.

Put TS2015 in borderless mode and load up a scenario. Once loaded, tap the Windows key again. This time your sim remains visible in the background, but your start menu and taskbar are prioritized as on top and your sim is prioritized below it. That's because the sim is simply in a borderless window. Click the sim's taskbar icon.... and the sim's borderless window is shuffled forward again as top priority and the taskbar is shuffled below the sim and effectively disappears.

So no... full screen is not a window mode. There is no window.... bordered or borderless or otherwise.


BTW folks...

I finally reinstalled Geforce Experience after the 10 upgrade and all is well so far!

[trev123]

Didn't know there was a borderless mode in TS. I always run games in full screen mode.

[krellnut]

So Eric,
The full screen vs. borderless thing. Does either one have any advantage over the other as far as resolution is concerned? Which one should I be using? Thanks.

[trev123]

http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questio ... creen-mode

[peterhayes]

Just be aware Vsync may not work in Windowed or Borderless Mode. ( It may work if forced via NVidia Inspector for NVidia cards.)
(In FSX if using windowed then Vsync had be forced via the config file.)
NVidia with the latest drivers now allow GSync Monitors to work in all 3 modes, Full Screen, Windowed, Borderless.

In TS2015 I found that full screen gave the best results but closely followed by Borderless.
pH

[GSkid]

Well trev123's link does answer a lot. I use borderless for a couple reasons....

#1: Mainly because in this mode it effectively acts like a Vsync. I can't recall ever seeing screen tearing while in borderless, so it seems to work. Some people in that link report getting higher frame rates in borderless. But if that's the case, I've not noticed it. I may test that out to be for sure. Some of those claiming that are using older PCs.

#2: Borderless allows you to still run your scenario in the background (multitasking) while you surf the net in a browser or whatever other tasks you want to do. The difference in borderless window vs. bordered window mode is borderless keeps the sim running at full screen resolution in the background.

In full screen mode, the scenario pauses (although you can still hear the sounds looping) while you pop out to surf the net and the sim is no longer visible.


On the Windows 10 front...

My laptop has a Realtek high definition audio chip with Beats audio. I prefer the generic Windows High Definition Audio Device driver over the Realtek one and the Beats EQ software. The generic driver is EQed flat by default (which in most cases I prefer) and it has louder sound output than the Realtek driver in it's EQ bypass mode. Especially when using my headphones.

Windows 10 appears to want to force me to update back to the Realtek driver, but a periodic notification tells me Windows failed to install it on it's own and that I need to install the update manually. That's good I get to keep it. It may force me to install it in the future when it's included with a bigger package of updates.... but at least it will still let me roll back the driver later.