Windows 10 Sucks Eggs

[AmericanSteam]

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[AmericanSteam]

Cortana can be disabled in the group policy editor On Pro and Enterprise and is easily reversible. No registry hacks needed.

[JerryC]

Lovin' Windows 10. Vast improvement over 8 and 8.1. Not seeing the problems that others are reporting, I guess because I build and maintain my own rig and know it's capabilities and limits. The privacy issues aren't really that much of a concern as a.) I'm not doing anything that would be considered shadey, b.) I've got more to worry about from having my payment card information lost at the local big-box retailer, fast-food chain, Steam, or even my own bank, than from Macroshaft.

Every computer OS has it's fans an detractors, and i'm a fan of Win10.

[PapaXpress]

I was using the developer preview so I can see how well the ubuntu shell worked and if I could use it for anything where I work. That aside it did not take hours to download the anniversary version, it was about 20 mins. I have not seen the issues with the nvidia drivers. I have always had the latest and greatest installed via Nvidia not the OS. Other than messing with the Start menu I have not messed with trying to kill the spies, or the glowing girl of Halo. The OS has been stable and fast, and I am on old hardware with a few perks (SSD, EVGA 970).

[ex-railwayman]

All this cold booting in 20 seconds depends on how much you've got on your C:Drive, surely???? I have WIN7, I have approx.100GB taken up of my C:Drive out of 459GB capacity, it also takes about 20 seconds to boot up from cold, and always has done. My nephew is now on WIN10, he has a 1TB C:Drive of which he has used about 700GB, so, it's very nearly maxed out, his machine takes about 4 minutes to boot up because he has so much crap on it, I told him to partition his hard drive to transfer some of his games and other junk away from his OS and see if it that helps with a faster log in time, I'm still awaiting his answer, but, I would have thought that if your C:Drive is empty than it's bound to boot up quicker than one that is bogged down to the maximum with your OS, Anti-virus content, games, photographs, social media and other stuff, what do you all think?

Cheerz. ex-railwayman.

[JerryC]

For an SSD, i've had a 120GB drive, all full except for 10GB, and a 240GB drive, with only 23GB free space. There is very little difference in boot time, mostly ranging from 8-16 seconds. I would assume it also has a bit to do with your Memory, as most programs only reside on the hard drive but run from the memory. I've had between 16 and 32 GB on my last two computers, so no shortage of that.

[AmericanSteam]

For an SSD, i've had a 120GB drive, all full except for 10GB, and a 240GB drive, with only 23GB free space. There is very little difference in boot time, mostly ranging from 8-16 seconds. I would assume it also has a bit to do with your Memory, as most programs only reside on the hard drive but run from the memory. I've had between 16 and 32 GB on my last two computers, so no shortage of that.

I have close to 30 programs that run at startup with Windows 10 with 16 Gb of memory and it still only takes 15-20 seconds to full desktop. Running W10 off of a 500Gb SSD all docs and other stuff on other drives.

[trev123]

Lovin' Windows 10. Vast improvement over 8 and 8.1. Not seeing the problems that others are reporting, I guess because I build and maintain my own rig and know it's capabilities and limits. The privacy issues aren't really that much of a concern as a.) I'm not doing anything that would be considered shadey, b.) I've got more to worry about from having my payment card information lost at the local big-box retailer, fast-food chain, Steam, or even my own bank, than from Macroshaft.

Every computer OS has it's fans an detractors, and i'm a fan of Win10.

I'm also a fan of Windows 10. No issues with forced driver updates

[trev123]

All this cold booting in 20 seconds depends on how much you've got on your C:Drive, surely???? I have WIN7, I have approx.100GB taken up of my C:Drive out of 459GB capacity, it also takes about 20 seconds to boot up from cold, and always has done. My nephew is now on WIN10, he has a 1TB C:Drive of which he has used about 700GB, so, it's very nearly maxed out, his machine takes about 4 minutes to boot up because he has so much crap on it, I told him to partition his hard drive to transfer some of his games and other junk away from his OS and see if it that helps with a faster log in time, I'm still awaiting his answer, but, I would have thought that if your C:Drive is empty than it's bound to boot up quicker than one that is bogged down to the maximum with your OS, Anti-virus content, games, photographs, social media and other stuff, what do you all think?

Cheerz. ex-railwayman.

He most probably has too many things starting at startup. There is an option where you can customize what you want to start at startup. I'm not sure where it is, although I have used it. I have lots of things on my computer but it starts up fairly quickly. I log on to my computer. It takes about 30 seconds to get to the log on screen, then after that about 30 seconds to get to desktop then I wait a few seconds until the circle at the end of the mouse pointer stops displaying before I do anything.

[buzz456]

You mean you guys shut your computers off?

[JerryC]

I'm a bit on the paranoid side, so when I do leave my computer on unattended, I configure NAV firewall to block all inbound and outbound traffic.

I don't know what it is now, but ot used to be that you could run "msconfig" to set what programs run from startup. It would give you a list of programs then you could choose which to disable. Helped a lot with slow startups.

[Ericmopar]

You mean you guys shut your computers off?

LOL
Mine boots in about 20 seconds cold, but I don't let Steam or any other unnecessary program boot at startup. Only Anti Virus and required drivers.
I just looked. I only have 7 things besides the OS itself that start with the computer. Everything else loads on demand only.
Almost all programs have that option somewhere in their little menus.
I have on occasion used CCleaner's startup menu, but not for some time now. Most things like Adobe reader have the ability to set them to not run on startup these days.
One of the things I like about Edge, is the fact you can use it for a PDF reader. I actually like the simpler menu in it for that, as opposed to Adobe Reader.
I like a lot of things about Windows 10, just not the mandatory driver updates.
It's not a matter of if it will break something, it's a matter of when.

I keep hearing people mention they have homebuilt PCs like that makes a difference. I definitely have a home built.

I'd also be willing to bet, if they knew the right places to look, they have had some of their drivers changed.
Like I said before, you have to compare what's in different places, like Programs and Features against what is in Device Manager and/or the actual system info in various programs.

In any case they didn't mess with my Nvidia driver when I had the latest one installed, but my system is preferring the older ones for snappy action when opening the NCP and loading Railworks smoother.

I will confess this particular Nvidia driver is working well, but who wants their freshly installed system tampered with, and having to spend time resetting the settings for particular games and programs.
I could've sworn the Nvidia Control Panel had a way to do profiles, but think I'm remembering something from the Linux version.

Mentioning Linux brought up another point. I was hoping the Dark Theme would be like Ambiance in Linux, but it has bright blues etc against the dark background which are really painful to my eyes. I was really looking forward to the dark theme.
I love the dark themes in Linux and Steam, they are much easier on my eyes.

I'm fixing things the way I want, but it involves time wasting registry hacks. I don't have Pro, so I can't use a Group Policy Editor.
I know from extensive reading, that even Pro will only defer Microbrains tampering for a limited time. After I read that, I was glad I didn't waste the money on a Pro upgrade.

[JerryC]

Having a home built system does make a difference. First, it's more likely to have higher end hardware which can digest whatever programs or OS's are thrown at it, therefore there are fewer problems. Second, people who build their own computers are more likely to be able to fix their problems if one does arise, resulting in less of the "OMG, vendor such-and-such-broke-my-system-so-they-suck!" postings.

It's kind of like cars. There are the gear heads who are like "the AC broke? No problem, just loosen this bolt, replace this, yadayada". Then there is me, who says "AC is broke? Must be because it's a Chevy, take to the shop, i'll never buy another car from the Heartbreak of America, yadayadayad..."

[Ericmopar]

I'm a bit on the paranoid side, so when I do leave my computer on unattended, I configure NAV firewall to block all inbound and outbound traffic.

I don't know what it is now, but ot used to be that you could run "msconfig" to set what programs run from startup. It would give you a list of programs then you could choose which to disable. Helped a lot with slow startups.

You can control startup from different locations.
With some programs you can do it from msconfig, although I almost never use that anymore, except for diagnostics.
Some programs can be changed in the Task Manager.
Some in the Program's menu.

That's just it Jerry. Vedor Such and Such is tampering nowadays with hardware drivers, which negates the homebuilders ability to keep their system running top notch in the long haul.
Some persons are having early luck with 10, but since Microsoft is forcing the drivers, they will have a broken system sooner or later.
Most of us that build our own, know to not mess with things like drivers unless we really have to. That's why we can have a system that runs for years without OS reinstalls, Blue Screens etc.

[JerryC]

BUT, have we not had automatic updates for years now? Even in Windows 7? I have never disabled automatic updates, and I think they have only hosed my Windows install once. That was way back in the awesome OS known as Vista.