Even a GTX 780 Can be brought to it's knees.

[arizonachris]

I dunno, I'm seeing specs with 3.5, 3, even 2Ms response times. That's darn fast. Then again, my 23" Asus LED backlit supposedly has 2ms response. (but I can't find where it says TN or IPS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6824236117) Maybe it's the colors that are better with IPS. Dunno.

I already know that the contrast ratio thing is blown way out of proportion so I don't bother with that stat.

[Ericmopar]

I dunno, I'm seeing specs with 3.5, 3, even 2Ms response times. That's darn fast. Then again, my 23" Asus LED backlit supposedly has 2ms response. (but I can't find where it says TN or IPS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6824236117) Maybe it's the colors that are better with IPS. Dunno.

I already know that the contrast ratio thing is blown way out of proportion so I don't bother with that stat.

I've been doing a lot of research on current monitor tech, and apparently most of the manufacturers are rating Grey to Grey now, not Black to Black so their response times look better than they actually are. Always they come up with a new angle to bone the consumer.

It's getting harder to figure out what is IPS vs TN. I've noticed they aren't always publishing the full stats anymore...

IPS has better color palette and viewing angles.

TN has quicker reaction times and is cheaper. In the real world the lower color palette may not matter when watching movies and surfing etc. The bolder palette of a IPS monitor makes more of a difference in animated things.

Now a little real world. My mother's HP monitor has a way better color range than my Dell 2320L and they are both TN. If fact her monitor looks as good or better than some of these new el cheapo IPS jobs. It doesn't have the viewing angle though.

I've noticed that both her's and my monitors lean a little on the green scale (supposedly a trait of TN) but I can easily remove that with the hue adjustment in the Nvidia Controls.

I've been playing with the settings on my new GPU. It loves Adaptive V-Sync, where as my Gigabyte GTX 660 hated that mode.
I can maintain 70-80 fps with 2X2 SSAA enabled. So I'd say nothing is wrong with this card. That doesnt' include third party scenarios with packed yards though. It'll drop to the high 20s and low 30s in those kinds of locations.

[arizonachris]

"Grey to grey" so that's what "GTG" means. Kinda borders on scandalous how they advertise stuff these days. We had that whole MBps vs. Mbps discussion a while back on the Steam forum.

[Ericmopar]

Okay.
After hours of reading about AA methods I decided to try something radical.
I set my ingame AA to FXAA+2X2 SSAA and then to save resources, I turned "Off" all AA in the Nvidia Control Panel.
I set Anisotropic filtering to "Application Controlled"
I set Negative LOD Bias to "Clamp"
I set Tripple Buffering to "On"
I turned on V-Sync to "Adaptive"
I'm sure that's testing the 3 gigs of VRAM...

Even On Donner Pass I'm usually maintaining V-Sync with virtually no Jaggies and the textures on the rock and trees is outstanding.

After experimenting a lot with current methods of AA, and reading extensively about it, I no longer believe SSAA is "inefficient". It's the good ol philosophy of "You get what you pay for." It's still widely agreed that SSAA is one of the oldest, but most effective AA methods, at anti-aliasing the entire screen. But it does need lots of processing power to do it.
Other AA methods use less power, but it's because they don't AA the entire scene.

Unfortunately TS XXXX doesn't use Transparency AA effectively. Plus I discovered why it's called that. It literally makes certain textures more transparent. When taken to an extreme, some textures will actually disappear with Transparency AA turned on.

The GTX 780 is indeed an awesome card when set up right, but TS 2014 can tax it still that's for sure.
Eric

[Ericmopar]

A sample shot.

Screenshot_Donner Pass Southern Pacific_39.29491--120.26219_16-15-58.jpg

[arizonachris]

60 frames is pretty good on Donner. I get between 20 to 35 max. Then again my GTX670 is only half the card you got.

[raptorengineer]

cool so even know train simulator 2014 runs fine on my machine and my graphics card is GeForce 590. now I have been looking at GeForce 780ti and the specs are like 3 or 4x better then geforce590. but I donno if i will see any difference in train simulator 2014 if i upgrade and all my setting are to the max on 590.

[Importz2k1]

GTX780ti out of the box, I get 25-35 fps in Sparks yard in Donners Pass. while all my other games I get 80-160 with ultra settings. This game is definately taxing on a gpu for sure and this is as good as it will get.

[Ericmopar]

GTX780ti out of the box, I get 25-35 fps in Sparks yard in Donners Pass. while all my other games I get 80-160 with ultra settings. This game is definately taxing on a gpu for sure and this is as good as it will get.

Some things like water can be turned down to med, as you won't see any real visual difference. For me it was the aliasing that was bothering me, so I've got that set at FXAA+2X2SSAA.
I've got scenery quality at "high"
Shadows at "High" Shadows don't seem to lower framerates much. I think those are on the CPU not GPU.
Everything else is on med or off. I don't like progressive flora anyways.
I can't tell a visual difference with the other settings on "High" anyways. They just seem to steal fps.

[Importz2k1]

GTX780ti out of the box, I get 25-35 fps in Sparks yard in Donners Pass. while all my other games I get 80-160 with ultra settings. This game is definately taxing on a gpu for sure and this is as good as it will get.

Some things like water can be turned down to med, as you won't see any real visual difference. For me it was the aliasing that was bothering me, so I've got that set at FXAA+2X2SSAA.
I've got scenery quality at "high"
Shadows at "High" Shadows don't seem to lower framerates much. I think those are on the CPU not GPU.
Everything else is on med or off. I don't like progressive flora anyways.
I can't tell a visual difference with the other settings on "High" anyways. They just seem to steal fps.

Thanks man, I'll give that a try!