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C424 Delaware Lackawanna

Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:01 pm
by jtousign
C424 DL2.jpg
C424 DL.jpg
This is the most difficult repaint I've done to date. And it's not over yet, lots of little details to do like separating the bolts, nuts and hinges in three colors and these tiny parts are agglomerated in an indescribable mess. I'm seriously thinking about repainting these parts in a common color because I'm drained! Your suggestions are welcome **!!bang!!**

Re: C424 Delaware Lackawanna

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:48 am
by RudiJaeger
First, give it a break and enjoy running some routes or something not paint-related for a while. Then come back to your project and create some additional layers in your template so you can assign different colors or combinations of colors to each of those little parts that are driving you nuts (hinge plates, nuts, bolts, etc). When you run out of colors, you can also incorporate geometric shapes to extend the pallete. I typically use stripes, polka dots, and squares of a variety of colors to further extend the available combinations. I usually assign geometric shapes to the larger parts, and stripes to the smaller parts like nuts and bolts, since the geometric shapes are too big to fit into the smaller items.

Even with this technique, you may run out of color combinations soon, so just do a section at a time and run it in the sim to identify where each little part belongs and take notes along the way. You can annotate the locations in your template, but with as many parts scattered about on this particular model, it might be best to make a diagram on paper and label the locations. As I recall, there are several texture files containing these intricate details, so again; pace yourself and work sections at a time until each of their contents are identified.

I recall when working on the VRC u-boat models (also with numerous details) I must have taken what seemed like over a thousand screenshots before I had everything identified. The only problem I ran into was a single hinge plate that was shared between two different areas with different colors, so I had to choose the color least likely to be noticeable to the rivet counters. So don't be surprised if this happens; sometimes parts are shared and there's nothing you can do but select the lesser of two evils.

Lastly, if this all works out; make a key-chart for the rest of us painters who currently don't have the time nor the patience to partake in this madness *!lol!*
Of course, there's always the option of contacting the developer, who may already have a chart available; but that would take all the fun out of it, right? **!!bang!!**

Enjoy your project, try to stay sane, and good luck! !*salute*!

(Btw, for those reading who are not familiar with this model; I'm not knocking it when I say "parts scattered about", because this really is a highly detailed model and it's obvious the developer put a lot of work into it. It's just that for painters, all this detail can sometimes be a nightmare when producing multi-colored re-paints. Monotone jobs don't require all this work, since all the little detail parts can be the same color, no matter where they reside; the only factor for consideration being the intensity of the weathering, if any, in certain areas. I suppose it's akin to comparing construction of a 300 piece jigsaw puzzle versus a 5,000 piece puzzle; but in the end, it's well worth the price of admission to see the final product running in the sim.)

As an after-thought, here are a couple of WIP shots to illustrate the parts identification process:

SD45_PanelFinder_01.jpg

VRC_Uboat_nuts_bolts_01.jpg

Re: C424 Delaware Lackawanna

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:26 pm
by suzukisk2
When I saw that my brain went wow that's extra special. I hope you don't give up because it is a masterpeice.
Pete
suzukisk2.0 !!howdy!!

Re: C424 Delaware Lackawanna

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:36 pm
by jtousign
Thank you Rudi for your rather encouraging message and yes, I do take time out regularly or I would go crazy. Your system of different colored lines for small objects is interesting, I'll try that. Actually I can't abandon this project because I have more than 40 hours of work to do. I have too much invested to stop here of course. Thanks a lot Rudi!

Re: C424 Delaware Lackawanna

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:07 pm
by buzz456
Interesting. We all have our little tricks we use to find stuff.
color_check.jpg

Re: C424 Delaware Lackawanna

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:16 pm
by kris120
Blender offers a very detailed grid for mapping.
This is a small resolution:
grid1024.jpg

The other versions are too big to upload here to the forum.
Use this for up to 4096x4096px as png:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iG4zut ... sp=sharing

Re: C424 Delaware Lackawanna

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:23 pm
by buzz456
Nice!

Re: C424 Delaware Lackawanna

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:14 pm
by slick204
Downloaded! *!!thnx!!* !*cheers*!

Re: C424 Delaware Lackawanna

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:04 pm
by jtousign
Oh yes!! Thanks a lot for the detailed grids for mapping Kris, I love it!!! About the color check texture Buzz I already have it since you sent it to me, thanks for that, and it was really helpful but for the small details it's more difficult. !*cheers*!

Re: C424 Delaware Lackawanna

Unread postPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:47 am
by mindenjohn
Thank you Kris. Vielen Danke.

Re: C424 Delaware Lackawanna

Unread postPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:15 pm
by harryadkins
Thank you for the test grids. I never thought of using them. Great idea...