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Western Pacific Challenger

Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:00 pm
by ZekTheKid
Here's another addition to the Feather River Canyon: The Western Pacific Challenger
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Required assets are the RSC challenger and the Gtrax berkshire.

Apparently my Feather River hype hasn't worn out yet, so I thought why not make a WP Challenger?
Some issues that occur:
1. All the wheels are on the turntable, just the plow and the tender stick off, and the table won't spin.
2. Need to figure out how to remove the UP Shield on the front of the engine.

Re: Western Pacific Challenger

Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:40 pm
by buzz456
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The plaque isn't a child object however......................

Re: Western Pacific Challenger

Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:43 pm
by ZekTheKid
buzz456 wrote:The plaque isn't a child object however......................

Ah ok. That make it a lot easier. Just have to alpha it out now......

Re: Western Pacific Challenger

Unread postPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:05 pm
by jalsina
ZekTheKid wrote:Here's another addition to the Feather River Canyon: The Western Pacific Challenger
20160310185610_1.jpg
Required assets are the RSC challenger and the Gtrax berkshire.

Apparently my Feather River hype hasn't worn out yet, so I thought why not make a WP Challenger?
Some issues that occur:
1. All the wheels are on the turntable, just the plow and the tender stick off, and the table won't spin.
2. Need to figure out how to remove the UP Shield on the front of the engine.

The Challenger will be a nice addition even with just a logo repaint. !*brav*! !*brav*! !*brav*!

However take into consideration that if a model boundary is longer than the turntable diameter, the loco may derail or the round table not turn as you already experienced (I would bet that the first will happen more frequently).
If you render the plaque invisible (alpha out) the boundary will still be longer. But we can live without taking the Challenger to the turntable. !!howdy!!

I have always thought that the Oroville turntable was designed too small in that DLC. That turntable was used to turn the WP 2-6-6-2 and 2-8-8-2 Mallets besides of the WP Challengers.

Re: Western Pacific Challenger

Unread postPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:22 pm
by buzz456
Well you can always swap it out for the big giant one in the library if you are that determined to be able to swing the big guys.

Re: Western Pacific Challenger

Unread postPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:37 pm
by TheRailfan98
The WP 4-6-6-4's had an overall locomotive and tender wheelbase 15 feet shorter than the UP Challenger, so I don't think DTG made Oroville's turntable too small. UP's Challenger is just longer :D By the way it's looking very nice, look forward to running it !!*ok*!!

Re: Western Pacific Challenger

Unread postPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:29 pm
by jalsina
TheRailfan98 wrote:The WP 4-6-6-4's had an overall locomotive and tender wheelbase 15 feet shorter than the UP Challenger, so I don't think DTG made Oroville's turntable too small. UP's Challenger is just longer :D By the way it's looking very nice, look forward to running it !!*ok*!!


I checked those a couple weeks ago. Where did you got that 15" difference? !*don-know!*

WP 2-8-8-2 120´9 1/2" and 120´4 1/2"
WP 4-6-6-4 119´11 1/4"

UP 4-6-6-4 121´10 7/8"

http://www.wplives.com/diagrams/locomotives/1948/index.html

Re: Western Pacific Challenger

Unread postPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:33 pm
by TheRailfan98
jalsina wrote:
TheRailfan98 wrote:The WP 4-6-6-4's had an overall locomotive and tender wheelbase 15 feet shorter than the UP Challenger, so I don't think DTG made Oroville's turntable too small. UP's Challenger is just longer :D By the way it's looking very nice, look forward to running it !!*ok*!!


I checked those a couple weeks ago. Where did you got that 15" difference? !*don-know!*

WP 2-8-8-2 120´9 1/2" and 120´4 1/2"
WP 4-6-6-4 119´11 1/4"

UP 4-6-6-4 121´10 7/8"

http://www.wplives.com/diagrams/locomotives/1948/index.html

Those measurements except for the UP Challenger are coupler end to coupler end. The front locomotive wheel to rear tender wheel measurement is what I was going off of. Sorry if I confused you !**duh*!! Some railroads (UP comes to mind) that ordered large locomotives only made sure the wheels fit and just let the excess overhang. WP may have done something similar?
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Re: Western Pacific Challenger

Unread postPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:22 pm
by jalsina
TheRailfan98 wrote:Those measurements except for the UP Challenger are coupler end to coupler end. The front locomotive wheel to rear tender wheel measurement is what I was going off of. Sorry if I confused you !**duh*!! Some railroads (UP comes to mind) that ordered large locomotives only made sure the wheels fit and just let the excess overhang. WP may have done something similar?
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But we agree there is not a difference of 15 ft?
I think Zek´s repaint will be a nice addition to the FRC route, either it fits in the turntable or not. !*YAAA*!

Re: Western Pacific Challenger

Unread postPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:59 pm
by ZekTheKid
^Staying positive +100 for you! !*brav*!

Re: Western Pacific Challenger

Unread postPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:18 pm
by TheRailfan98
Ok I confused myself with measurements, I'm not sure why the UP site and Wikipedia have the 121' measurement as wheelbase when the wheelbase is actually almost no different between the UP and WP. So you're correct, no 15 foot difference.

Now to get back on topic, I agree Zek's repaint will be very nice regardless if it fits the turntable or not. I'll have to be careful though, he's already onto me about DPRW ripoff ideas... !*roll-laugh*!