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P&LE Final and Connellsville to Baltimore

Unread postby Bontempo » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:54 pm

After a Computer crash and My father passing away back in April I am going to modernize and finish the P&LE route to Youngstown, Ohio

The Connellsville to Baltimore route will be finished but at a later date

the section between Brownsville to McKeesport has been reworked (CSX) mainly changing signals and removing tracks
Brownsville to Monongahela (NS) WIP

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Re: P&LE Final and Connellsville to Baltimore

Unread postby LandN » Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:10 pm

Will be looking forward to both of them.
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Re: P&LE Final and Connellsville to Baltimore

Unread postby Coaltrain1 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:20 am

Great to hear your going to finish this route one of my favorite's..
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Re: P&LE Final and Connellsville to Baltimore

Unread postby imnew » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:47 am

Thanks for doing these routes and welcome back ! !!*ok*!!
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Re: P&LE Final and Connellsville to Baltimore

Unread postby Bontempo » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:13 pm

To bring some of this up to speed
I am working from Monongahela to Shire Oaks Yard which was named incorrectly as Elrama yard

hopefully I will not have to redo the entire yard
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Re: P&LE Final and Connellsville to Baltimore

Unread postby buzz456 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:58 pm

I'm going to move this to WIP. Hope that's OK with everyone.
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Re: P&LE Final and Connellsville to Baltimore

Unread postby gtrtroger » Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:40 am

This sounds great....updates, extensions and bug fixes - I like it!
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Re: P&LE Final and Connellsville to Baltimore

Unread postby sabreman61 » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:49 pm

Next to My WIP freeware route (viewtopic.php?f=31&t=10787) these are my favorite routes! I am a huge CSX fan and I was so glad when I found these. I have done video route tours of these on my YouTube channel. I really promote your work because I think its the best! Thank you soooo much for your work! I did have a question. Is Connellsville to Washington DC a combination of the CSX Mainline and Connellsville to Baltimore? I do love that route too. I love the huge hill you gotta clime coming out if Washington DC! Also I have both routes and the CSX mainline seems to be named wrong. Cumberland Yard isn't right and in Connellsville to Baltimore its 100% right. Is Connellsville to Baltimore a replacement for the CSX mainline?
Thanks again!!! *!!thnx!!* *!!thnx!!* *!!thnx!!* !!*ok*!! !!*ok*!! !*cheers*! !*cheers*!
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Re: P&LE Final and Connellsville to Baltimore

Unread postby Bontempo » Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:36 pm

Hopefully this will make sense

CSX Mainline and the P&LE route was done by hand (No Google maps tracing via decals was used) hence it is nowhere near 100% accurate

Connellsville to Baltimore used RWDecals from Google earth using 2005 map overlay trying to be accurate as possible

the C&B route is an expanded version of the CSX Mainline route in both directions where the CSX Mainline routed ended at both ends
I am expanding in both directions

the route will end in Baltimore

Because of hard drive failure in old computer I am putting the C&B route on hold until further notice

It will be finished

in the mean time I am working on my P&LE route and modernizing it
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Re: P&LE Final and Connellsville to Baltimore

Unread postby glenn68 » Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:00 pm

Thomas,
I hope that all with go excellent for you on this. I have to admit you have taken on a large task. I have your older version installed and wrote a few personal scenarios for the route. The Monongahela River was always a big interest to me. back in the 80's there was alot of train watching for my point and especially fishing in Monongahela Pa. If I may request, can you make the 84 mine extension? that is the spur line just south of Monongahela Pa. If I can remember the line is about 5 miles long and services CONSOL's 84 mine which is now idol. back then I would sometimes see Conrail working the branch switching out hoppers for the mine. The Mathies Mine was always a big interest and so was the prep plant. wow, old memories. sorry got a bit off topic.

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Re: P&LE Final and Connellsville to Baltimore

Unread postby sabreman61 » Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:12 pm

Bontempo wrote:Hopefully this will make sense

CSX Mainline and the P&LE route was done by hand (No Google maps tracing via decals was used) hence it is nowhere near 100% accurate

Connellsville to Baltimore used RWDecals from Google earth using 2005 map overlay trying to be accurate as possible

the C&B route is an expanded version of the CSX Mainline route in both directions where the CSX Mainline routed ended at both ends
I am expanding in both directions

the route will end in Baltimore

Because of hard drive failure in old computer I am putting the C&B route on hold until further notice

It will be finished

in the mean time I am working on my P&LE route and modernizing it


So let me get this straight. The C to B is as real as you can get it,(I'm using Google Earth too for my route) the CSX Mainline and PL&E are freehand and fantasy
It makes sense but I am surprised at the PL&E route cause Bailey Yard looks real and a few other things in the route look real too. I compared it to Google earth. So by modernizing PL&E do you mean making it as real as you can get? Anyway awesome work and thanks for all you do for the community.
*!!thnx!!* *!!thnx!!*
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Re: P&LE Final and Connellsville to Baltimore

Unread postby Bontempo » Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:53 pm

The CSX and P&LE are real the base line for the tracks are real they were traced on to the ground by markers

example CSX Mainline there is no Potomac Yard it was torn up in 95 I used an old map and planted markers as to where the general layout of the yard was

Same goes with the P&LE

some yards and steal plants are no longer where they were
once again I used old maps to show where they were
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Re: P&LE Final and Connellsville to Baltimore

Unread postby sabreman61 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:00 am

Bontempo wrote:The CSX and P&LE are real the base line for the tracks are real they were traced on to the ground by markers

example CSX Mainline there is no Potomac Yard it was torn up in 95 I used an old map and planted markers as to where the general layout of the yard was

Same goes with the P&LE

some yards and steal plants are no longer where they were
once again I used old maps to show where they were


OK I get it! **!!bang!!** Yea i looked up the Potomic Yard and saw that it was tore up,but it still is nice to have!

Thank you again for you work and all you do for the TS community!
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Re: P&LE Final and Connellsville to Baltimore

Unread postby Bontempo » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:32 pm

PS you can still see the Potomac Yard in Google Earth

Green button top row somewhere in the middle is the time slider

go to 1988 and it will show up
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Re: P&LE Final and Connellsville to Baltimore

Unread postby JohnTrainHead » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:42 pm

It's too bad. Why exactly was the yard removed?
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