New York Division-Bergen Line

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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby NStrains » Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:30 pm

Drove it again, this time actually paying attention from the cab instead of "behind the lense". The curves are very smooth and well done! That 35mph s-curve right after tuxedo snuck up on me though, but still handled 45mph with only barely leaning off center.
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby NYWhiskey » Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:18 pm

Enjoy your vacation!

Sorry, just had to. !!*ok*!!

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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:52 pm

NYWhiskey wrote:Enjoy your vacation!

Sorry, just had to. !!*ok*!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpENsZx ... liTJ5Tg_Sg


Down to 20% Jameson's at this stage. But lets discuss this image.
Lets assume I pull this off and build this bridge from only the DLC I currently use. And lets also assume its looks pretty good. Not just the bridge, but the whole 5-10 miles you can see from this trestle. Furthermore, assume that I put in Cornwall-Salisbury Mills and I am headed to Campbell Hail.
At this stage the Bergen would be pushing 60 miles of deep, insane scenery. Then What?

I actually wonder that if my success here is really due to perseverance rather than skill. Have you guys ever looked at my WIP link on Steam? I have documented every single session since June of 2014. I am not sure that I even love doing this. Its my job now, its what I do, every day. (*note I am fully employed in Management and have a one hour commute) Once or twice a week I get a full 8 hours of sleep FOR THE PAST two and a half years! Holy Cannoli! Not a complaint - just a statement of fact. One which is definitely pointed at all those budding (I'm gonna build 300 miles) route builders out there.

Its time, brother Whiskey, its all about the time.

But I love this line and I want you all to see it the way I do. That's gotta be worth sumptin!

Time for another Jamesons (yes, its 552pm and I am getting a quick build session in before dinner)
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:53 am

OpenRailer90 wrote:Image
The pantographs are the bothersome part. There supposed to be down, you should've chosen the diesel versions.

OpenRailer - those are the Diesels. I reinstalled the Diesel version again last night, saved, drove the QD and it was "pantographs up". What I didn't do was put drivers in each loco and then lower form the cab. I really need static units - each unit uses 80MB of memory in game.
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby JohnS » Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:16 am

minerman146 wrote:OpenRailer - those are the Diesels. I reinstalled the Diesel version again last night, saved, drove the QD and it was "pantographs up". What I didn't do was put drivers in each loco and then lower form the cab. I really need static units - each unit uses 80MB of memory in game.


If you add a driver to the consist when placing it the panto should be down. I noticed this when playing in the Test Trak.
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby NYWhiskey » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:14 pm

Adam, as far as I am concerned you were "done" long ago. This is the most beautifully detailed route I have ever seen. You have met me face to face and know that i am just breaking your balls with that trestle and going to Campbell Hall, that's what friends do. LOL

Don't even sweat that and put a cap on the BEST route ever created for Train Sim! !!*ok*!! !!*ok*!!
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:17 pm

NYWhiskey wrote:Adam, as far as I am concerned you were "done" long ago. This is the most beautifully detailed route I have ever seen. You have met me face to face and know that i am just breaking your balls with that trestle and going to Campbell Hall, that's what friends do. LOL

Don't even sweat that and put a cap on the BEST route ever created for Train Sim! !!*ok*!! !!*ok*!!


Thanks Whiskey - I was done when I hit Hoboken. The Bergen County Line was delivered in full. So you got me there man. This last(ish) part of the route needed the rework for the big setup. I finish my rework and get setup for the Moodna. If I cant do the Moodna with my DLC, I am done. If I can do it, I go to Campbell Hall and call it done for the NJT/NS version of this route. Gives you full modern era NS operations from Secaucus to Campbell Hall. I bet the freight guys will agree ... that is all I need to do.

I seriously debated leaving this 15mile stretch as is and sayin done. But chose the rework option. I will keep going, then, before I am about to crack, and just run the heck outta gas, I'll clean up and pack it in. We'll say its done enough...
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby NYWhiskey » Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:52 pm

Dude, i gave you the perfect out and you jumped right back in head first. Look what you did with the assets you have, they won't believe you can't do the Moodna. *!twisted!* !*roll-laugh*

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I'm looking at a Sunday in September. !!*ok*!! !*cheers*! Can't promise a bottle like the last one, I'm a working stiff myself. !*salute*!
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby NStrains » Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:19 pm

I posted this pic in another thread, but I'm just gonna leave it here too...

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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:28 pm

You guys are the best!

If he can do it -- so can I !
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby NYWhiskey » Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:11 pm

minerman146 wrote:
Oh wait....


These guys did it.

“Surely you’ve been sent from the heavens to teach us mortals what beauty is.”

!!*ok*!! !*salute*! *!lol!*
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 12:12 am

*!!thnx!!* JOHNS!
Put the drivers in and those pantographs are now down.
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:00 pm

I am tired of being stuck down at the bottom of the WIP page all week. So, after 30 hours of extensive, heart-Breaking Route work..

The Minermen are so proud to release update #128
New York Division-Bergen Line 9.7.6: We-Wah Lake

Fixes: Pantorgraphs are now DOWN in Suffen
Extensive, virbrant, tree-filled scenery the likes of which you have never seen before (except in real life)
More trees than ever presented virtually, any-time, anywhere.
See the Southern Tier of New York and gaze upon the glory that is the Ramapo Valley.
This looks so much better than the real thing, the town council of the Town of Tuxedo wants to move to my route!

Enjoy Fellas!
We are on vacation to September 1st in Sunny Florida for some Beach, Pool and Hotel. An NO route building.
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!!howdy!!
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:13 pm

After 2.5 years of work, I had the opportunity to show the Bergen to my father. We can safely say things have changed a bit since he left the railroad in 1978. The changes made sense to him. Firstly we got into a small argument about why so much emphasis was put into the scenery. His argument-he definitely did not have the time to count daisies along the main. He was too busy watching his amps and his air to look to see if he could spot a gas station. In essence, what he saw was a wall of trees, bushes and the backs of buildings interrupted only by named crossings he had to know. Air is a huge deal as he only ran with 75 pounds (the NY Division is relatively flat) but you still needed to know your air. Startups, if you were not on a hill, you did not just slap it into notch one to get going - you took the brakes off, stuck your head out the cab and watched the ties, once you started moving THEN you went to notch one. Slack. The man is obsessed with slack. Breaking drawbars was a huge issue, and you applied brake over hills, while under power to prevent that. How did you do it, you took the cork out of a fuse-e stuck that in the train brake to keep it depressed, then you could apply the train brake applications and not have to keep the brake depressed. Other observations - I nailed the Bergen and most definitely at Garfield, Plauderville, Glenn Rock, WC, WJ. Pretty much the hole thing. He said it was like watching a movie of the line. (Thanks Dad!) It took four hours to cover the Bergen. We didn't even do the branch lines. Oh, he totally recognized the Holiday Inn at Saddlebrook (it looks like the Capital Records building in LA). Last, in Hoboken, he said where did you get those signals? (the tri-lights are post Conrail). So all in all, the route is gorgeous, but, for him, what we need to capture is loaded versus unloaded cars placed in random sections of the train, more emphasis in using the train brake over use the engine brake or dynamic and ensuring the signals show restricted when they are supposed too. (sounds like he wants Run*8!)

We were doing the grand tour so he didn't get a change to drive. And this isn't much different than our other conversations. I think the scope of the route itself kinda of blew him away. I put all this crap in there because, well because its there AND he might of saw it once on the rare occasion he was looking out the cab. Basically, he didn't see crap other than his gauges and the next signal. He was too busy 'feeling' the train to think about where he was.

I didn't know this but he was on the Piermont 3 times, he hated the job at BT (only the Patterson drill was worse) and he drove once or twice through the Bergen Cut.

Overall the route passes muster - he knew where he was on the line and was predicting the next curve and or stations well in advance based on the visual cues he was getting from the route on Train Simulator. Do note, the last time he was on the line was 1978.

A very cool 5 hours with my Dad.

The rest of you - please get on the route West of Hillburn and take some screens already!
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby BillS » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:53 am

Thought you were supposed to be on vacation? Couldn't stay away could ya??? !*don-know!*
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