Norfolk southern horseshoe curve route? (Modern day)

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Re: Norfolk southern horseshoe curve route? (Modern day)

Unread postby nssd80mackid » Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:18 pm

New Photos *!lol!* One From Brickyard with Fence put in and one from Cassandra in the snow.
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Re: Norfolk southern horseshoe curve route? (Modern day)

Unread postby Haystack » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:24 am

Awesome work !!*ok*!!
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Re: Norfolk southern horseshoe curve route? (Modern day)

Unread postby nssd80mackid » Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:55 pm

Thanks!
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Re: Norfolk southern horseshoe curve route? (Modern day)

Unread postby CASO » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:39 pm

Looks great, I think in terms of legality, as long as you ask permission of rs.com and release it as freeware you're okay. There is a different version of TS2013's Cajon Pass that has scale rail and was released as freeware so and they didn't get into trouble, so if you just upload it to the file library like that you're cool.
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Re: Norfolk southern horseshoe curve route? (Modern day)

Unread postby nssd80mackid » Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:35 pm

Thanks I got a unfinished verison up for download. If you want the link PM me.
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Re: Norfolk southern horseshoe curve route? (Modern day)

Unread postby 1225fan5358 » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:40 pm

CASO wrote:Looks great, I think in terms of legality, as long as you ask permission of rs.com and release it as freeware you're okay. There is a different version of TS2013's Cajon Pass that has scale rail and was released as freeware so and they didn't get into trouble, so if you just upload it to the file library like that you're cool.

He doesn't even need perms from RSC. As long as its free ware he's good. !!*ok*!!
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Re: Norfolk southern horseshoe curve route? (Modern day)

Unread postby 1225fan5358 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:48 am

mdurdan wrote:
1225fan5358 wrote:He doesn't even need perms from RSC. As long as its free ware he's good. !!*ok*!!

Actually since this route isnt freeware (it is payware from RSC) he will have to do this a certain way to be able to LEGALLY release this. Were working on getting only the bare bones to release than after we will have to get the ok from RSC just to be safe.

if its not freeware hes got a lot of legal stuffs to deal with...That is alot of RSC Content and you could get a fine or go to jail for making money off of their content. You need their special permission and a whole lot of other legal crap to go through. Even harder since theyre British. But if you release this as FREEWARE, Copyright Act of 1976 states he has the right to personal and public use. But just an email or something like that from RSC would be better. !!*ok*!!
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Re: Norfolk southern horseshoe curve route? (Modern day)

Unread postby glenn68 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:10 am

The route looks very interesting.
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Re: Norfolk southern horseshoe curve route? (Modern day)

Unread postby PapaXpress » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:13 am

I'm sorry but the copyright act will not protect his work if he included "payware" assets in this "freeware" route without RSC's permission. In fact the copyright laws would protect RSC if he did.

There is a way to do this though. When you package your route make sure none of the payware assets are included, and then in the Readme inform the user they need to purchase the assets from Steam (in this case I would think HSC).

This is not a new concept. Route creators have been doing it this way all the time. Using ScaleRail is another example of where the user would need to download additional content to make the route run.

How could I miss this. Here is fitting example:
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Re: Norfolk southern horseshoe curve route? (Modern day)

Unread postby nssd80mackid » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:52 am

PapaXpress wrote:I'm sorry but the copyright act will not protect his work if he included "payware" assets in this "freeware" route without RSC's permission. In fact the copyright laws would protect RSC if he did.

There is a way to do this though. When you package your route make sure none of the payware assets are included, and then in the Readme inform the user they need to purchase the assets from Steam (in this case I would think HSC).

This is not a new concept. Route creators have been doing it this way all the time. Using ScaleRail is another example of where the user would need to download additional content to make the route run.

How could I miss this. Here is fitting example:
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Alright me and mdurdan are working on the route will find away and thanks for the link. *!!thnx!!*
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Re: Norfolk southern horseshoe curve route? (Modern day)

Unread postby nssd80mackid » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:39 pm

The only things that need to be done is Lilly, Junk yard at cresson,Bridge at summerhill,and anything I didnt do. I took out and added tracks so the tracks are all present day. The scenery I didnt do it's all mdurdan from here on. The only scenery I did was the grade at cresson on the Station Inn side, Cassandra bridge, and Horseshoe curve. Almost there !*YAAA*!
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Re: Norfolk southern horseshoe curve route? (Modern day)

Unread postby nssd80mackid » Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:27 pm

We need objects to. The blue walk bridge,and the station on the top of the incline on the curve.
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Re: Norfolk southern horseshoe curve route? (Modern day)

Unread postby nssd80mackid » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:10 pm

What other objects?
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Re: Norfolk southern horseshoe curve route? (Modern day)

Unread postby nssd80mackid » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:43 pm

Arent the tunnels fixed one double and one with one track?
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Re: Norfolk southern horseshoe curve route? (Modern day)

Unread postby nssd80mackid » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:21 pm

O well at least we are making a Pittsburgh Line route
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