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Re: GP30 Variants

Unread postby Hawk » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:34 pm

Donationware (from this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donationware )
Donationware (or nagware) is a licensing model that supplies fully operational software to the user and pleads for an optional donation be paid to the programmer or a third-party beneficiary (usually a non-profit). The amount of the donation may also be stipulated by the author, or it may be left to the discretion of the user, based on individual perceptions of the software's value. Since donationware comes fully operational (i.e. not crippleware) when payment is optional, it is a type of freeware.


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The term shareware (also known as trialware or demoware) is a proprietary software that is provided to users without payment on a trial basis and is often limited by any combination of functionality, availability[further explanation needed], or convenience[further explanation needed]. Shareware is often offered as a download from an Internet website or as a compact disc included with a periodical such as a newspaper or magazine. The rationale behind shareware is to give buyers the opportunity to use the program and judge its usefulness before purchasing a license for the full version of the software. Firms with superior software thus have an incentive to offer samples, except if their product is already well known, or if they do not want to be listed in direct competition with other products on shareware repositories.[1]

Shareware is usually offered either with certain features only available after the license is purchased, or as a full version but for a limited trial period of time. Once the trial period has passed, the program may stop running until a license is purchased. Shareware is often offered without supports or updates which only become available with the purchase of a license. The words "free trial" or "trial version" are indicative of shareware.

The term shareware is used in contrast to retail software, which refers to commercial software available only with the purchase of a license which may not be copied for others, public domain software, which refers to software not copyright protected, open source software, in which the source code is available for anyone to inspect and alter, and freeware, which refers to copyrighted software for which the author solicits no payment (though he or she may request donations).


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Freeware (from "free" and "software") is computer software that is available for use at no cost or for an optional fee,[1] but usually with one or more restricted usage rights.[2][3][4] Freeware is in contrast to commercial software, which is typically sold for profit, but might be distributed for a business or commercial purpose in the aim to expand the marketshare of a "premium" product. Freeware is a loosely defined category and it has no clear accepted definition.[4] The term "freeware" is commonly used for closed source or proprietary software, but since the term is related to price (and not clearly to issues like license terms, availability of the source code or copyright status) it is sometimes also applied to free software/open-source software. Popular examples of freeware include Google Chrome or Adobe Flash Player. Popular examples of free/open source software which is sometimes referred to as freeware, include Firefox or 7-Zip.


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Re: GP30 Variants

Unread postby Kali » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:48 pm

jpetersjr wrote:Actually, donationware is quite a bit different from freeware. If you don't first donate, (like payware) you can't get it and can't get it without donating first. Unfortunately we can't go to the site and download the train without first donating a sum of cash. So yes, it is very different from freeware.


That's not donationware, that's out and out payware just like anything else that requires payment - it may go to a good cause or wherever, but it's still not optional. Anyway Hawk posted better definitions.
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Re: GP30 Variants

Unread postby SCLALINE » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:43 am

ill pay for em, i realize free is better but dealing with the time and effort involved in building decent models of rolling stock RW needs more american assets, and RSC is more focused on UK assets, though the GG1 is coming. but we lack alot of older diesels and steam assets, so if i need to support 3rd party developers to come over to RW and they make decent models well i will save my pennies
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Re: GP30 Variants

Unread postby BNSFdude » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:59 pm

If ya wanna cut me a check for shiggles, be my guest, could always use money. But for the model, it'll be a spin on "Brit Kits" but free. All features, cabs, sound, full functional lighting, free. Like I said, it bugs me that everything cool is payware, so why would I do it to someone else?
Side note, Minnesota Commercial Railroad called back and said this spring, I can go record locomotives. So B23-7s and B30-7s will be a forsure for the future.
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Re: GP30 Variants

Unread postby Kali » Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:12 pm

Heh, I hear ya. Hobbies are no fun when they're a job too anyway. Give me a shout when you run into a technical wall, I have worked about 80% out so far I think.
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Re: GP30 Variants

Unread postby SCLALINE » Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:47 pm

thanks BNSFDUDE You rock
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Re: GP30 Variants

Unread postby jpetersjr » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:16 pm

I don't like everything cool to be payware as well. So much that I've thought about giving up modeling scenery all together and spending my time on something else. So, I'll always support freeware, and not so much for payware.

I too like to see a new free anything, because it also helps to draw more players to our sim that payware would scare some of them away from ever buying the game. I figure the more freeware trains we have the more players and possible developers we might receive.
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Re: GP30 Variants

Unread postby jpetersjr » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:36 pm

Here's a couple cab photo's from a real GP30.
GP30 Cab 1.jpg

GP30 cab 2.jpg

GP30 Cab 3.jpg

GP30 Cab 4.jpg


As well, here's something that might help you with the above grill area.
GP30 - GP36 Grills.jpg
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Re: GP30 Variants

Unread postby BNSFdude » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:24 am

You guys are kicka$$, any one else want those modeled switches on the back cab panel to work? I sure do, it'd be nice to start and stop with an in cab control... Also, is it possible to make it nessicsary to move the Dyn/Power/Neutral switch to control wether it throttles up (contacts wise, loading up on the gen field/setting up the dynamics)?
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Re: GP30 Variants

Unread postby styckx » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:38 am

BNSFdude wrote:You guys are kicka$$, any one else want those modeled switches on the back cab panel to work? I sure do, it'd be nice to start and stop with an in cab control... Also, is it possible to make it nessicsary to move the Dyn/Power/Neutral switch to control wether it throttles up (contacts wise, loading up on the gen field/setting up the dynamics)?


You need to watch this in it entirety to see just what can actually be done with Railworks when someone puts in the effort. This is about as 100% prototypical as you get. No one has matched this yet.. Not even close.

Link below skips the part of putting the train in game and right to what you want to see. This only shows about.. 50% of what's functional.. Heck, you can even manually control all the vents for cooling.. You can actually overheat the engine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Uu48#t=76s
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Re: GP30 Variants

Unread postby Kali » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:01 am

BNSFdude wrote:You guys are kicka$$, any one else want those modeled switches on the back cab panel to work? I sure do, it'd be nice to start and stop with an in cab control... Also, is it possible to make it nessicsary to move the Dyn/Power/Neutral switch to control wether it throttles up (contacts wise, loading up on the gen field/setting up the dynamics)?


Yes. Easy, wasn't it :) not much we can't do, cab mechanics wise.
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Re: GP30 Variants

Unread postby BNSFdude » Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:26 pm

God yes, Styckx... The Manual shutters would be good for SW1s, SW1s are the only American units that I knwo for sure have manual shutters for the radiator, as I have run them. That is seriously the coolest video ever. I would like something similar for the GP30, such as Gen field, the new failiure featres such as over hear, water alarm, PCS, etc. I would like extreme realism. for scripting.

As far as the model is coming, i have basic in cab shapes done already, the textures aren't done however.
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Re: GP30 Variants

Unread postby jpetersjr » Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:42 pm

Will be ready to see more progress as you post it.
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Re: GP30 Variants

Unread postby JackD » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:09 am

@ styckx,

Many thanks for link to TEM2 tutorial. That is assuredly one amazing piece of work! Congratulations to the Russian Team. !*brav*!
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Re: GP30 Variants

Unread postby jpetersjr » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:27 pm

Any news on this project?

Will be ready to see some more progress on it.
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