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Re: A Classic

Unread postby ex-railwayman » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:59 pm

As Black as the Ace of Spades, please, Sir...... **!!bow!!** !*salute*!

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Re: A Classic

Unread postby PapaXpress » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:22 pm

and if (heh, I know you can) you can change the alpha so that is flat :)
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Re: A Classic

Unread postby NStrains » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:31 pm

ex-railwayman wrote:As Black as the Ace of Spades, please, Sir...... **!!bow!!** !*salute*!

Cheerz. ex.

I agree, the horse should be black. !!*ok*!!
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Re: A Classic

Unread postby PennCentral670 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:22 pm

Nice locomotive but one problem, I really don't like the ditchlights, they way they are don't look good. Would have been nicer without the ditchlights
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Re: A Classic

Unread postby buzz456 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:24 pm

PennCentral670 wrote:Nice locomotive but one problem, I really don't like the ditchlights, they way they are don't look good. Would have been nicer without the ditchlights


So don't D/L the thing pal.
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Re: A Classic

Unread postby TheTeenageFoamer » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:47 pm

PennCentral670 wrote:Nice locomotive but one problem, I really don't like the ditchlights, they way they are don't look good. Would have been nicer without the ditchlights

I think it looks good for what the base model is, and sometimes you have to have compromise to make as close as possible. Also it is just a freeware repaint not an entirely new loco.
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Re: A Classic

Unread postby RailWanderer » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:08 pm

dejoh wrote:
PapaXpress wrote:
buzz456 wrote:I was working from this picture. Apparently the horse is a horse is a horse of a different color. (At some time)
NS F7 nose2.JPG


Could they have used a flat paint instead of a gloss?


Its probably a decal. The world is running very short of talented craftsmen.

yah, those days are gone, everything is vinyl or some derivative. I was a sign painter in my 20s, fun job.
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Re: A Classic

Unread postby NYWhiskey » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:37 pm

RailWanderer wrote:
dejoh wrote:
Its probably a decal. The world is running very short of talented craftsmen.

yah, those days are gone, everything is vinyl or some derivative. I was a sign painter in my 20s, fun job.


Fun? Wait until you have to get sun baked vinyl off a bus with rock chips in it, a heat gun won't even help you. Then break the glaze and put a REAL paint job on it. !*roll-laugh*!
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Re: A Classic

Unread postby BKRR605 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:22 pm

buzz456 wrote:So what do we want black or gray?

I would say black, anyway, and awesome work Buzz! !!*ok*!!
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Re: A Classic

Unread postby dejoh » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:36 pm

Sounds like polyurethane finish applied over high-performance graphics. Every painter be it locomotives or automotive painters want their work to last forever, In the last 15-20 years, the coating industry has eliminated and added so many different ingredients to applying a great paint job. Removing lead base was the beginning of the downfall. Its hard to keep up. The customer wants their expensive graphics to last forever! Most of the custom locomotives you see now a days are cleared coated several time over. (like Buzz's excellent re-paint in real life) The Union Pacific engines with the famous American flag are coming to the end of their life expectency. In my business, to replace a set of those flags could run $1.000-1.500 for one loco depending on location and about a dozen of other factors. A hand held small propane torch is your best bet for removing problematic stripping and lettering, you can't apply too much heat, and it takes the right temp as not to burn the glue. After removal, a recommended adhesive eliminator is a must. Time and weather is the worst enemy of a fantastic paint job. As I tell customers, it never looks better than the day it leaves my shop. !*salute*!
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Re: A Classic

Unread postby PapaXpress » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:57 pm

dejoh wrote:Sounds like polyurethane finish applied over high-performance graphics. Every painter be it locomotives or automotive painters want their work to last forever, In the last 15-20 years, the coating industry has eliminated and added so many different ingredients to applying a great paint job. Removing lead base was the beginning of the downfall. Its hard to keep up. The customer wants their expensive graphics to last forever! Most of the custom locomotives you see now a days are cleared coated several time over. (like Buzz's excellent re-paint in real life) The Union Pacific engines with the famous American flag are coming to the end of their life expediency. In my business, to replace a set of those flags could run $1.000-1.500 for one loco depending on location and about a dozen of other factors. A hand held small propane torch is your best bet for removing problematic stripping and lettering, you can't apply too much heat, and it takes the right temp as not to burn the glue. After removal, a recommended adhesive eliminator is a must. Time and weather is the worst enemy of a fantastic paint job. As I tell customers, it never looks better than the day it leaves my shop. !*salute*!



OK, so let me get this straight.... Buzz needs to take a torch to his monitor to get the decal off?


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Re: A Classic

Unread postby dejoh » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:15 pm

LOL. As I was writing my long winded response to NY Whiskey about the complexities of removing decals from real life situations, I must venture back into the world of Railworks America and the fantastic work of all the contributors on this site.
A big thanks for all the work you all do. !*salute*!
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Re: A Classic

Unread postby RailWanderer » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:47 pm

Geez, I was talking back in the days of alkyd enamels and lettering brushes. Now that's a skill. Heck, we just painted over what was there already if the surface was useable. Prime it, base coat it and color coat, then letter.
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Re: A Classic

Unread postby buzz456 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:26 pm

Please get back on topic. Sheesh.
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Re: A Classic

Unread postby bnsfsubdivision » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:17 pm

Most of the work is complete. Shouldn't be too long from now.
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