New York Division-Bergen Line - Part Deux!

[minerman146]

I am squeezing in a quick update from my office. I am really getting a kick out of rebuilding the cars that made the 60s! I am going by memory of what I saw roll down the old New York Division from uh.... a long time ago! What kicked it off was that picture I took at Royce Chemical on the Carton Hill Branch. I always wondered how the route would look with period rolling stock. Suffice to say I caught the repaint bug. Im going to work this a few more weeks, and go back to the route.

I hope someone made it down the Carlton Hill Branch. So far, I have not seen any images of Carton Hill or the reworked scenery in Rutherford. If you haven't already, trust me, its worth the trip.

I post more screens of the works in progress as I move forward. Its a lot of fun to do.

Carry on!

[minerman146]

Now for this week's repaint offering.

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The rolling time capsule is coming together. There are rulz: If I saw one it goes in, if I see a picture or film with an EL loco and the box car, it goes in. Photographs are first reference, Models and drawings need to be confirmed with blurry pictures. Car numbers are also checked. The research is half the time, the other half is finding fonts and heralds and the other half is building, tweaking, reworking and watching TS2019 reload.

The only real issue I am having is working around the numbers. Those are believe are hard coded into the Geo and so cant be moved. I do look for models, where the number placement will work with what I am working on. I was supposed to learn repainting later, my route is at full stop, while do these things. I would say they are 7 hours per unit with the research, prep work and painting.

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The last one I really like. I vaguely remember Atlantic Coast Line as I used to confuse the logo with Missouri Pacific. The big circle. But I don't think I ever saw the "Thank you for shipping Coast Line" But, last week, I was watching "Memories of the EL' to help trigger the ole memory and I saw this one. I have to do this. The film must of been from 1964 or so. But son of a gun there it was and now here it is.

So, kind of like my route - I am drawn to the obscure and forgotten. C'mon ACL can't be obscure ! This really brings back the memories and research reminds me of how grueling the railroad business was at that time. Road were just dropping like flies. Still, it was a great time and lots of fun to not just train spot, but watch all the different cars roll by too. Now, we can do it again!

[mindenjohn]

Love the “Rock” car.

[minerman146]

Here is the late-late show for this Weeks' Route Update. I'm Still Painting. All I ever wanted were the EL gothic Numbers. They look like Southern, but they aint. But I got em. THEN, I said, hey this here caboose kinda reminds me of a Dunmore Caboose. Not even close. But what the heck. This little beauty has 2 digits, I needed 3. The first two characters are stuck on the Caboose. Lining this all up .. and in proportion has caused me to loose sleep.

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The finished product makes it worth it.

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Thanks all you mentors and tutors out there!
Garry On!

[minerman146]

Before I head out to work today, I wanted to show you what I am working from as I rework these Cabooses. I am totally cool with not having the actual Dunmore Caboose model. I want to see, if i painted and detailed the heck out of a NE4 Caboose, that it would be passable. Why not, I don't know how to make models.

Here is the Dunmore: ( I will be modeling this exact one to run on the NJNY Branch!)

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Here is the Minerman hack job:

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Im lovin the little lettering details like "watch your step"

[EngineerJohn]

So does this mean minerman has a second full time job as a reskinner now?

[minerman146]

So does this mean minerman has a second full time job as a reskinner now?

Yeah, I roped myself in on this one. What can I say? I have a vision! Might be alcohol fueled but its still a vision.
So, stay tuned!

[NYWhiskey]

Might be alcohol fueled but its still a vision.

Copy, more fuel. I'll let you know when I'm pulling into Campbell Hall.

[minerman146]

You're on - NYWhiskey! Let me know when.

And we have the EL Caboose Trinity below. Each have subtle differences and certainly the markings pay homage to the NY Division, which makes me happy.
The 3 units I call: The Spartan, The NJNY Branch and the Potty. I learned that the star marking underneath the Caboose Number means there is a Lavatory. I suppose if you do find a bathroom on the NY Division, well you must be a star.

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I hope this is it for today ... I have a pile of chores to do.

Enjoy!

[minerman146]

Well, we do certainly have a theme going on here. Norfolk & Western was an often seen road here in the NY Division. In fact N&W was owned through a holding company called DERECO, which, in turn, owned the EL on April 1, 1968.

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And this shot of some local job rolling through Waldwick.

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Its starting to look like something.

[minerman146]

I just got off the phone with my Dad (chief consultant) and asked him some questions that are relevant to the cars I am painting. Also, he assisted with the overall objective - recreating 1970 traffic.
1. Cabooses - the old ones, from what he remembers the interiors were gray, some may have been institutional (army) green, but the color was so faded it looked gray.
2. Consignees that loaded cars on the NYD, what Railroads Box Car were they? Erie as much as possible. In the event there wasn't an empty Erie, they grabbed something else, but would lose some of the revenue for the pickup.
2a. Scales - cars that were loaded, got lead door seals and got weighed. The scale was like a turntable that didn't turn, with a wood hut attached where the scale was. The scale would stamp the manifest with the car tare. There was a scale (the only one he knew) in Newburgh, NY on the waterfront. Sure, there had to be other scales like at Weehawken and Croxton. Cars loaded on the Erie were weighed on the Erie.
3. Lumber shipments; Came predominantly from the CN and CP in their cars. IT would be possible that if there were ERIE cars in the area where there were wood loads in Canada, they would use those (infrequent). Three types of cars carried dimensional lumber only: Box Car, Bulkhead and Thrall. Box cars would be 40 footers.
4. How trains were assembled: Roughly in the way the would be cut. A train going to Chicago, would have all the Chicago cars in the Rear, if there was a drop off in Binghamton for the D&H, the D&H cars would be at the front of the train. Locals on the Division would be the same way. If you had a 50 car train going to Port Jervis, and you had a drop off at Suffern, the Suffern Cars would be behind the engine.

Thanks Pop!

This should explain what the heck I have been up to with these repaints!

Im sure you guys know all this stuff, but I wanted to hear it from my Dad.

[LuisaA]

Good job as always!
What about passenger trains?

[minerman146]

Good job as always!
What about passenger trains?

LuisA, that can be a big question. What are you looking for, and what time period?

MM

[minerman146]

I am doing research on Rolling Stock and I came across this model.
I call it " No Way!"

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But of course all of YOU know where and what this is for.

"caption on the Miromark Webpage reads: Royce Chemical Company manufactured their signature household cleanser Royox. This hopper would have transported ingredients used to make the cleaner."

Anyone that finds a photograph of this .. I am so doing it.

[LuisaA]

Good job as always!
What about passenger trains?

LuisA, that can be a big question. What are you looking for, and what time period?

MM

I think around the 60s