"King's Arm Highway" route released!

[rcca]

King's Arm Highway Crashes. Anyone have this one? great job Don.
I love it. Great Graphics too. Feel like I'm there.
Runs real good on my Rig, except on Route. It's the 2nd free Roam. I get 3/4 into route and Crashes, blue screen, I go to event viewer , and click on to M/S says " GPU drivers" I'm using 260.99 Nvidia.
All settings in Nvidia control display set for "Performance" AA off, so on.
RW settings 1024x768 AA off-0, Enable EAX. Sound Card settings Hardware acc. at Full, Sample Rate at Good, to increase FPS.
I'm getting 25-50FPS
I had in the Nvidia display settings to Quality, that's was the 1st crash last night, today I changed it to Performance, still the Blue screen Crash.
The only other work around would be for me is I may not run the 2nd Free roam.
Any idea? Thanks
Rig Gateway FX510S 2.4 GHZ 2Duo Core E6600
3.24 Rams
GPU 8800GT OC 512MB BFG
Ron
Last edited by rcca; Today at 06:25 AM.

[LoneWolfDon]

rcca: Thanks for the comments on my route and good to know you're enjoying it.
The problems seems like it may have to do with your graphic-card / drivers / settings or something else and may not have anything to do with my route in particular.

A few suggestions: First I suggest to try from the initial RailWorks launcher, click on Tools & Docs tab, then click on the Clear Cache button there. This is always good practice for RailWorks especially after installing a new addon. Try it out and see if that fixes things.

You could also try form steam-client, Library, right-click RailWorks, Local-files, Verify integrity of came cache. This will help to ensure you don't have any missing or corrupt files with your RailWorks installing. If so, it will attempt to reaquire those files. The process can take more than once to make sure you have not missed any files. Do the Clear Cache option again as described above. Try running RailWorks and see if that fixes things.

If not, re-download my route to make sure you have a good download of the route file. From RailWorks launcher, Package Manager, Un-install King's Arm Highway. Tools & Docs tab, Clear Cache. Close and restart RailWorks. Package manager, re-install King's Arm Highway route. Tools & Docs and Clear Cache again. Try again.

If all of that still doesn't fix things then;
Update to most current version of graphic-drivers for your card if you haven't done so already. Remember it's good practice to first un-install current drivers and restart computer, before installing different drivers, otherwise conflicts can occur. If drivers are up to date, also make sure you have most recent version of PhysX installed:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx-9.10 ... river.html , as well perhaps going to microsoft's site and manually download and installing most recent version of DirectX for your system.

Disable other programs that you may have running in the background before playing RailWorks (anti-virus, messengers, etc..) before running RailWorks, as sometimes other programs running could cause conflicts.

Other than that, not sure what else to suggest other than trying different graphic settings (as it seems that the indication of the problem going by the error report you're getting). If all else fail, then, just avoid playing that one free=--roam scenario that seems to be giving you trouble. Sorry, not sure what else to suggest. Scenario seems to work fine for me on testing it recently.

[Trainguy76]

Yes, it was brought to my attention from a couple of users who tried my version-1 of the Bonus-Pack-2, got an error of: "Consist builder - Can't load rail vehicle - ES44AC BNSF".

This is from the Steam version of RailWorks (purchased from Steam). If you bought from retail, you didn't get the BNSF pack.

[rcca]

rcca: Thanks for the comments on my route and good to know you're enjoying it.
The problems seems like it may have to do with your graphic-card / drivers / settings or something else and may not have anything to do with my route in particular.

A few suggestions: First I suggest to try from the initial RailWorks launcher, click on Tools & Docs tab, then click on the Clear Cache button there. This is always good practice for RailWorks especially after installing a new addon. Try it out and see if that fixes things.

You could also try form steam-client, Library, right-click RailWorks, Local-files, Verify integrity of came cache. This will help to ensure you don't have any missing or corrupt files with your RailWorks installing. If so, it will attempt to reaquire those files. The process can take more than once to make sure you have not missed any files. Do the Clear Cache option again as described above. Try running RailWorks and see if that fixes things.

If not, re-download my route to make sure you have a good download of the route file. From RailWorks launcher, Package Manager, Un-install King's Arm Highway. Tools & Docs tab, Clear Cache. Close and restart RailWorks. Package manager, re-install King's Arm Highway route. Tools & Docs and Clear Cache again. Try again.

If all of that still doesn't fix things then;
Update to most current version of graphic-drivers for your card if you haven't done so already. Remember it's good practice to first un-install current drivers and restart computer, before installing different drivers, otherwise conflicts can occur. If drivers are up to date, also make sure you have most recent version of PhysX installed:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx-9.10 ... river.html , as well perhaps going to microsoft's site and manually download and installing most recent version of DirectX for your system.

Disable other programs that you may have running in the background before playing RailWorks (anti-virus, messengers, etc..) before running RailWorks, as sometimes other programs running could cause conflicts.

Other than that, not sure what else to suggest other than trying different graphic settings (as it seems that the indication of the problem going by the error report you're getting). If all else fail, then, just avoid playing that one free=--roam scenario that seems to be giving you trouble. Sorry, not sure what else to suggest. Scenario seems to work fine for me on testing it recently.

How Don, thanks for the reply.
Try to make a long story short. I did all the above, found out the FPS right always when I just pass the Power plant, the one with the big STACK, and sub yard on the left side, my view has been slightly to the left side of the train looking at train, and slightly upper view back just behind the 2nd engine can see 1st coal car, half of it. I saved the run right before the Power plant, looking at my (this is not going to be a short story I can tell aready) FPS 50's then stutter, then FPS drop 21 for a few seconds, while staying at the same view, and then the BIG CRASH BLUE SCREEN hits me.
I lowered my resolution to 800x600, all setting to High, crashed at the setting, lowered 800x600 setting all to low, now CRASHES. Tried 800x600 all settings med.FPS 50's-60's no Crashes. then tried back to 1024x768 , settings Med.,Med.,Med.,Med.,Med.,High,High, Scenery Detail 10, Procedural on, FPS 50's No Crashes.
My Physx is the latest one, drivers is the lastest one, how ever years ago use to try diff. drivers 1 every week on my old rig until found one that gave me the highest FPS, only tried 2-3 with this Rig with in the 4 years I've had it.
I did remove your route last night, and reinstalled it, a no go there.
Steam found 2 missing files, then reaquired those files, that was a no go for your route.
Anyway it's not your route is the problem, day time trip same place does not Crash if I remembered.
Thanks for the help, keep up with more stuff. Thank you.
Ron

[arizonachris]

Hi, Ron, welcome to our little corner of the world, LOL

Usually a blue screen is a Windows crash, a Railworks crash will give you a "something bad has happened" screen. For your video card, try rolling back to my favorite drivers, the 196.21's. New drivers seem to have issues on older cards. Do you get any kind of a "STOP" error when Windows blue screens, or does Windows just reboot the PC?

[LoneWolfDon]

Trainguy: Thanks for that info. Yeah, I was wondering why some users had the BNSF loco of that model and others didn't considering it was showing up as one of the "default" locos. You'd think now that RailWorks is connected and updated via steam, regardless if store-or-steam-bought, that everyone would get all of the same "default" stuff. Bah! Just something else to make us route & scenario developers confused I guess. Anyways, I'll try to keep it in mind for any future scenarios I may make.

rcca: Well, as long as you can still enjoy my route and RailWorks in general is the main thing. Don't worry about if you can't run one free-roam scenario on my route. It's just that, a free-roam so I don't think you're missing much by not being able to run it, and there's another free-roam and several standard scenarios to choose from anyways that you say all seem to work fine. But, yeah, going by the error you describe, it sound to me more like a graphic-card / drivers / settings / hardware / Windows issue.

Chris: Hey, that's the same set of drivers I use too. Currently I have an older graphic-card (though I got a better one on the way), and that set of graphic-drivers seem to work quite well and stable. Some nVidia drivers released just after that version were reported to overheat, cook and kill many graphic-cards... Baaad coding and worse testing! And then more recent drivers I have tried don't seem to like my currently old graphic-card very well (would get the occasional BSOD and other strangeness), so sticking with the nVidia 196.21 drivers seems to work well for my computer / graphics-card and so far all programs and games seem to run without problems too.

[rcca]

Hi, Ron, welcome to our little corner of the world, LOL

Usually a blue screen is a Windows crash, a Railworks crash will give you a "something bad has happened" screen. For your video card, try rolling back to my favorite drivers, the 196.21's. New drivers seem to have issues on older cards. Do you get any kind of a "STOP" error when Windows blue screens, or does Windows just reboot the PC?

Yes, it appears berfore Bule screen comes up RW stutters, FPS goes to 21FPS for awhile just when FPS starts to go up PC clicks everything stops, Blue screen with whole bunch of writing on it which you can't read because then PC reboots.
Yesterday on testing the PC did two loud clicks , like I got flash of 2 blue screens one after another, because PC tried to not want to crash. I looked in Event Viewer, yep said Crashed twice all the same time ID 1003.
My PC will play just about anything, except 2Ksports NBA 2K10, death of the Blue Screen, Support and I tried everything, Except going down on Drivers, Went up on Drivers. The Game is uninstalled, only paid $15.00 or less for it.
Now RW in the Freeroam 2 of King's Arm Highway is the other problem having, other areas of KAH no problem, just only Freeroam 2.
It has to be GPU drivers issue, latter this week I'll try 196.21's.
I looked in my Folder of Drivers I have 191.07 my 1st driver I used when I got my GPU 3-4 years ago, then have 197.45, I used this on for a long time until I went for the lastes on from Nvidia 260.99, I'll still try yours.
I use to try diff. Drivers 2 a week with my old Sony until I got the this Gateway, and went for the 8800GT OC, what a difference, was like cake and icecream, which I love.
Thanks for the reply. have a good one.
Ron

[arizonachris]

OK, Ron, I am presuming you have Win XP? Go to Control Panel, System, Startup and Recovery tab and un-click the box that says "Automatically Restart" That will make Windows stop and give you a "STOP" error code which we can look up and see if it's a hardware fault or not. Next time Windows throws a blue screen, it will now stop.

[LoneWolfDon]

rcca: When's the last time you cleaned the insides of your computer and your graphics-card?
I try to clean mine every couple months or so for preventive maintainance. If the graphic card / fans / vents / etc... gets clogged up with dust and dirt, it could contribute to problems such as overheating, BSODs and possibly causing damage to some hardware or components. How old is your card? Could be time for an upgrade perhaps? I have an old computer (7+ years old now), and currently have an old nVidia 8400GS. Though it suited it's purpose and ran well enough, it's considered a low-end card by today's standards. I can't afford to upgrade to a better system, so I'm now upgrading some of the hardware.. just dumped in an extra Gig of RAM which helps, and have a new nVidia 9500GT card on the way. My old computer and hardware setup can't really handle much higher card than that, but I think it will help breath some new life into this old computer of mine until I can afford to finally get a whole new system. In the meantime, despite it's age, my computer still seems to run quite well and can handle most games I throw at it (though I can't always run some games at higher-level graphic settings and maintain good good performance). Surprisingly though, I can run RailWorks with almost all settings at high-levels and still get good performance.

[rcca]

Cleaned My PC last week, everything.
Hey guys, and Gals,and Don, IT WAS THE DRIVERS.
I tried Arizonachris advice, Thanks Chris, I tried the 196.21. WOW I went from all med. 1024x768, to all High settings @ 1280x1024 FPS 40's-70's. when some FPS 21's would come up once in while and stayed @ 21 for few seconds or more, NO CRASHES. HURRAY!
Looking good too. Thanks everyone for the help. Like you said Chris, older GPU don't like newer Drivers, which you think would be a plus with newer drivers. Thanks again.
Time for me to hit the sack now.
Ron

[arizonachris]

Glad it's working now, Ron. Now, get your lazy butt out of bed and get to driving!

[rcca]

My butt as been out of bed since 5:00am today had to go to work, darn it.
Okay, it's Trains time.
Hey Chris, maybe with this driver I'm using I'll reinstall NBA 2K10 It was Crashing too, it's the only Game that won't Run on My Rig. At least no problems with RW any more thanks to you.
OK enough talking, on with the Games now.
Ron

[usernametaken]

Will I be able to play this route in Kuju Rail Simulator?

[arizonachris]

Will I be able to play this route in Kuju Rail Simulator?

I know that Rail Simulator stuff will run in Rail Works, but I'm not sure of the reverse.

[emptyhead]

LoneWolfDon » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:06 am
rcca: When's the last time you cleaned the insides of your computer and your graphics-card?
I try to clean mine every couple months or so for preventive maintainance. If the graphic card / fans / vents / etc... gets clogged up with dust and dirt, it could contribute to problems such as overheating, BSODs and possibly causing damage to some hardware or components.
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www.quietpc.com this is in the UK.


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