Need help with color fading in repaint.

[flatbush71]

Can any of you high-tech guys explain this to me ? Is it the constant .dds to TgPcDx conversions thats bleeding the color out ?
It seems I had this happen years ago, but I can't really remember. I'm painting blind to get the yellow around the cab front and back so I have to transfer it back and forth often.

[Kali]

You mean the darker yellow, or the colour noise? the darker yellow is because of the HQ shadow, the noise is a result of the dds compression or maybe the uncompression when you pulled the texture out originally ( it doesn't add up though! ). The PS dds exporter has a lot of settings to fiddle with, or you could borrow an uncompressed texture TgPcDx file of the same size, rename it to the one you're painting and export uncompressed ARGB dds to use with it.

[flatbush71]

The noise, the yellow I already have a fix for.
My steps.
1. DXTBmp (TgPcDx to .dds)
2. DXTBmp ( .dds to norm.bitmap )
3. paint (Corel X5)
4. DXTBmp (back to .dds)
5. RSBin Tools (import .dds into .TgPcDx )
I just keep editing the .dds/bitmap and importing. I 've seen this before ,but I just can't remember what the work around is , or what causes it.
If you would, explain your answer in " old people talk " please.

If you know of a program thats better & more up to date, let me know also. thank you.

[Kali]

Well, I presume you have a base black layer and you're painting yellow in a new layer ( if you're painting directly onto the background, then try not to do that - if you screw up then you have to start all over again ). A simple fix would be to reduce the saturation of the base black layer completely - that will turn it black & white which won't stop the noisy blocks showing up, but will make them show up in shades of grey instead of colour. I don't know much about Corel paint though, so I can't help with that at all.

It might be a dxtbmp error, but I don't know anything about that program either, sorry :(

[flatbush71]

I can always do massive cut and paste.
Seriously , I did have backups, and I put in another service pack,(that makes 3 so far for X5 )
I'll figure something out, thank you for your help !!!!

[MadMike1024]

I'm guessing you've de-compiled the original model to get your template? As I mentioned before, there is a template here for download with legend. The cab front and back are fairly simple, and some overs around the edges don't matter. The only caution is for the high hood version, as it uses the center area of the cab back for part of the roof.

[flatbush71]

Well, its bits and pieces of all three of Justin's models/textures as well as a repaint that I'm hanging the new textures on. I was just about finished until I noticed all the blue ,purple,red, etc squares bleeding thru. I guess I'll just take more time and redo each bad spot, if I start over the same thing will start again. Corel X5 had some bad bugs, that may have caused it, or all the pastes I set could be the problem as well. Or I may have hit something in X5, it has about a 1,000 functions that I never use. As far as all these big words you guys use, I have no idea what your referring to. I use cut,copy,paste,paint,texture and convert. To me a template is a pattern. I pretty much
have all that already, but I may be able to rob some pieces off of it if it looks good at a distance. I really do appericate you guys taking the time to help, but you are going to have to speak in plain old common American words. I come from a time when there was no such things as computers, internet, or cable.

Edit: Ok, Mike, I found your gray textures, I'll go that route and see whats cooking.

[flatbush71]

Ok, I figured out where the problem starts anyway. No matter what I use to get the textures into Corel Photo-Paint X5, as soon as I start painting or what ever else it starts to break down. So its a program bug rather than old age, Hehe. Its had 3 major service packs and each one has broken just about as much as it has fixed,these guys should start making a train sim, they'd be right at home. I'll start digging for PSP-9, pay one of the grandkids to bring all the boxes downstairs.


Edit : After a lot of fanagling as was able to get map textures 1 & 2 converted over to 8888-32 DXT and its working and looks ok in game so far. What the outcome will be remains to be seen.

Edit 2:

Its starting to come together, the 32 bit textures are the only thing to use.