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Super Elevation Won't work

Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:13 pm
by TheTeenageFoamer
I am laying track in Delphi and I can't get the stinkin thing to work. The whole curve was laid using the easements tool and using Cajon Pass's track rule which includes super elevation. Does anyone have a solution, I am trying not to punch my monitor in fury **!!bang!!**

Only half of the curve banks as seen in the screenshot.
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Re: Super Elevation Won't work

Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:22 pm
by PennCentral670
Was told that Superelevation is a pain in the butt to deal with, I tried it myself and here's the result. That's why I don't do it on my routes, so hard. **!!bang!!**

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Re: Super Elevation Won't work

Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:25 pm
by TheTeenageFoamer
I wish I had the option to not do it, the speed limit in the area I'm working on is 50-60MPH so it has to be super elevated.

Re: Super Elevation Won't work

Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:31 pm
by Bananarama
Super elevation is easy. For the issue illustrated above with the section that didn’t take, you need to set that piece, as it’s likely you have some broken sections through the curve. SE will only cover the whole curve if the track is continuous and unbroken.

One thing to be mindful of is to not have the follow terrain option enabled, which will certainly break the track ribbon along its path.

Re: Super Elevation Won't work

Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:56 pm
by TheTeenageFoamer
Hack wrote:Super elevation is easy. For the issue illustrated above with the section that didn’t take, you need to set that piece, as it’s likely you have some broken sections through the curve. SE will only cover the whole curve if the track is continuous and unbroken.

One thing to be mindful of is to not have the follow terrain option enabled, which will certainly break the track ribbon along its path.

I can under what you mean about have the other section checked, however it is checked:
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EDIT: I figured it out. **!!bang!!** I didn't split the track where the two track rules met.

Re: Super Elevation Won't work

Unread postPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:54 am
by BoostedFridge
Berkshirefan765 wrote:
Hack wrote:EDIT: I figured it out. **!!bang!!** I didn't split the track where the two track rules met.


Why are you using two track rules?

Re: Super Elevation Won't work

Unread postPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:07 am
by RailWanderer
BoostedFridge wrote:
Berkshirefan765 wrote:
Hack wrote:EDIT: I figured it out. **!!bang!!** I didn't split the track where the two track rules met.


Why are you using two track rules?


I questioned that myself, to each his own.

Re: Super Elevation Won't work

Unread postPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:12 am
by TheTeenageFoamer
BoostedFridge wrote:
Berkshirefan765 wrote:
Hack wrote:EDIT: I figured it out. **!!bang!!** I didn't split the track where the two track rules met.


Why are you using two track rules?

My intention was to use just one, but I realized I laid most of the track using ScaleRails default. If ScaleRails default had super elevation, I would have used that the whole way. But it doesn't, so I have to use Cajon pass track rule for the super elevation.
50% of the time there is a method to my madness !*roll-laugh*!

Re: Super Elevation Won't work

Unread postPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:25 am
by BoostedFridge
The scalerail default track rule does have superelevation. Its what I'm using on my route.

Its really best to use 1 rule on all your track, otherwise it can bite you for signalling, scenarios, etc.

Re: Super Elevation Won't work

Unread postPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:50 pm
by TheTeenageFoamer
BoostedFridge wrote:The scalerail default track rule does have superelevation. Its what I'm using on my route.

Its really best to use 1 rule on all your track, otherwise it can bite you for signalling, scenarios, etc.

Whenever I try to super elevate it, it doesn't work. I guess I'll go back and try.

Edit: Still is not working for me.

Re: Super Elevation Won't work

Unread postPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:56 pm
by Bananarama
I’ll have to double-check the SR track rule and see if I entered the correct values.

Re: Super Elevation Won't work

Unread postPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:48 pm
by BoostedFridge
Berkshirefan765 wrote:Whenever I try to super elevate it, it doesn't work. I guess I'll go back and try.

Edit: Still is not working for me.


See the pic below. This is the 'default' track rule from Scalerail that I'm using. As you can see, the track is definitely superelevated in the curve.

How old is the version/copy of Scalerail that you are using? Is it the payware or freeware version?

Hack wrote:I’ll have to double-check the SR track rule and see if I entered the correct values.


See pic below. Seems to work here.

Superelevation Scalerail.jpg

Re: Super Elevation Won't work

Unread postPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:02 pm
by TheTeenageFoamer
BoostedFridge wrote:
Berkshirefan765 wrote:Whenever I try to super elevate it, it doesn't work. I guess I'll go back and try.

Edit: Still is not working for me.


See the pic below. This is the 'default' track rule from Scalerail that I'm using. As you can see, the track is definitely superelevated in the curve.

How old is the version/copy of Scalerail that you are using? Is it the payware or freeware version?

Hack wrote:I’ll have to double-check the SR track rule and see if I entered the correct values.


See pic below. Seems to work here.

Superelevation Scalerail.jpg

It is the free version of Scalerails. It should be fairly up to date, I downloaded it when the Lafayette Division came out.

Re: Super Elevation Won't work

Unread postPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:26 pm
by BoostedFridge
I'm stumped then. Unless the freeware version isn't updated for Superelevation, or something. Hack?

You are laying the track with the exact same method when doing it with both trackrules, right?

Re: Super Elevation Won't work

Unread postPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:53 pm
by TheTeenageFoamer
Yes, the track is being laid the same way with both rules. I am experiencing no problems with the track at the moment, so I'm good for the time being. If I'm lucky, it'll stay that way.