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Why 3 engines ?

Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:46 am
by Cardinal51
Now why would this train have 3 engines ?

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Just show, or . . . . ?

Re: Why 3 engines ?

Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:52 am
by PapaXpress
It could be a power move.

Re: Why 3 engines ?

Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:18 pm
by wackyhuman
Sometimes engines need to be brought (back) to another location as they are needed there. No need to drive them there if another train is going there already, just add them to the consist.

Re: Why 3 engines ?

Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:02 pm
by Cardinal51
Would the 2 additional trains be "put in neutral" :D and be without a driver/engineer ?

Re: Why 3 engines ?

Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:05 pm
by Chessie8638
Would be two locomotives running pulling the train and the third would be running but isolated (not providing traction to pull the train).

Re: Why 3 engines ?

Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:14 pm
by Cardinal51
Why 2 running, isn't 1 enough ? Or would 2 result in a higher combined efficiency ?

My latest (and first) Amtrak trip had a consist of:

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1 x Heritage fleet baggage car
1 x Viewliner sleeping car
1 x Diner-lounge car
3 x Amfleet II long-distance coach
1 x Chapel Hill private car

All these single level cars pulled by by one Genesis

Re: Why 3 engines ?

Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:44 pm
by Chessie8638
Normally long distance trains have 2 locomotives for power and just in case one breaks down. The second can limp the train into the nearest station.

Also the number of cars, grades encountered, and speeds that have to maintained to keep to schedule have to be kept in mind.

Another thing is the H.E.P. (Head End Power [Hotel Power]) from one locomotive can only supply a total of 8 passenger cars. Anymore and you need a second locomotive. Even if it's only one car over the max of 8.

Re: Why 3 engines ?

Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:48 pm
by up_8677
If power is being forwarded to another location it often is "Dead in Consist". Which means it is basically a 400,000lb car with slightly more rolling resistance than normal due to the traction motors. !*salute*!

Re: Why 3 engines ?

Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:52 pm
by ATSF3814
They could also be taking one or more of the locomotives to a shop for servicing.

I've seen several other examples of apparently overpowered trains:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTLBCEBTV3M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGjkU8DmYAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLcsaHteHhk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UpWe9dIwEg

Re: Why 3 engines ?

Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:09 pm
by Cardinal51
Thanks guys, very interesting info and movies

one locomotive can only supply a total of 8 passenger cars


Does it matter whether those are single- or bi-level ?

Re: Why 3 engines ?

Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:18 pm
by Chessie8638
I believe it doesn't matter if they are Superliners or Amfleets.

Re: Why 3 engines ?

Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:19 pm
by Cardinal51
In the first image in this thread I think I see 6 superliners.