Here's One for Tori's C&O Route

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Here's One for Tori's C&O Route

Unread postby Hawk » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:15 am

Anyone feel industrious? *!greengrin!*

http://www.aqpl43.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/ ... esturb.htm

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Re: Here's One for Tori's C&O Route

Unread postby micaelcorleone » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:18 am

One word: Beast! :D
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Re: Here's One for Tori's C&O Route

Unread postby Toripony » Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:21 pm

Hard to believe that beast actually ran past my house. Wish I had been alive to see that! I don't have links handy, but there are staged photos of it taken at Hart's Run and coming out of the Ft. Spring tunnel.
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Re: Here's One for Tori's C&O Route

Unread postby mapitts » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:20 pm

Another one of those not so good, good ideas. Anybody know off hand what the locomotive weight was? N & W had about the same bad idea called the "Jawn Henry". Looked kind of like a GG1, only bigger. It was developed for pusher service. It also had all of the same problems with coal dust vs. electrical gear. The N & W also had a problem with breaking turbine blades when coupling to a train too hard. Great find. I really wished this part of the forum would take off the ground more. I enjoy it very much including the info from our friends across the pond! I have always loved technical locomotive articles.
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Unread postby Chessie8638 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:03 pm

Yes. Coal dust + water + traction motors. Not a good mix. C&O had the largest fleet, three of them (500, 501, & 502). The C&O couldn't get any from Washington to Cincinnati in a day since they kept breaking down.

Despite being failures, steam turbines were impressive machines:

C&O: http://www.shorpy.com/node/1404?size=_original
PRR: http://crestlineprr.com/prr6200.jpg.html
UP: http://donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/up80.jpg
N&W: http://loco.skyrocket.de/img/nw_te1_2300e.jpg

The PRR turbine was probably the most successful. Could maintain 100mph for hours on end. If the diesel hadn't come around shortly after the S2 entered service the PRR probably would have built more and corrected the early problems it had: http://crestlineprr.com/duplexexperimentals.html
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Unread postby arizonachris » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:00 pm

According to the link Hawk posted: 106 feet long and weighed no less than 856,000 pounds. Dang! That was a beast! !*hp*! Scrapped all three of them.
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Re: Here's One for Tori's C&O Route

Unread postby mapitts » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:19 pm

arizonachris wrote:According to the link Hawk posted: 106 feet long and weighed no less than 856,000 pounds. Dang! That was a beast! !*hp*! Scrapped all three of them.


Somehow I overlooked the weight. UP's turbines fared better than most. Nicknamed "Big Blow" the two main problems where #1 noise, and #2 fuel consumption. They sucked about as much Bunker C at idle as they did at WOT. Interestingly enough, there was talk 15 years ago or so about reviving turbine power for locomotives. GMC even had buses and an test bed of an over the road truck powered by turbines.
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Re: Here's One for Tori's C&O Route

Unread postby RAILSOHIO » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:49 pm

Someone did a C&O turbine for MSTS,but never released it. I have been working on a mesh for the N&W turbine,it is one of my favorite locos.The Jawn Henry was moderately successful,injecting water into a 600 psi boiler was on of the biggest problems. I was originally making it for Trainz,but I have a ways to go to get it finished,then converted to a RW format. It will be awhile so dont anyone get excited to excited!
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Re: Here's One for Tori's C&O Route

Unread postby Toripony » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:54 pm

The Chessie's little partners were destined for use in short runs in the new C&O passenger business revitalization plan...

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Re: Here's One for Tori's C&O Route

Unread postby arizonachris » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:40 am

Wow, I think I just spent an hour at that link to the B&O Museum, thanks' Tory! Quite a place! Love the roundhouse! Amazing! !!*ok*!!
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