Odd Rebuilds and Experimental Locomotive Designs

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Re: Odd Rebuilds and Experimental Locomotive Designs

Unread postby _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:14 pm

hobo1960 wrote:My information said that the 1.2 million per engine cost put the end of UP's interest in the project.

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Those 1950's dollars equate to 120 millions of 2019 dollars presumably, and that is most likely without the cost of decommissioning the locomotive's nuclear components once the fuel has run out. For the 1950's engineers and scientists were woefully naive on this part of the nuclear cycle.

Say the Big Nukes were the equivalent of the Big Boy and Big Blow, the UP would likely need about 40-50 of those 6000 h.p. locomotives them to pull their transcontinental freight trains through the sparsely populated western USA it served.
In comparison, would electrifying those lines and using electric locomotives running on power generated in stationary atomic power stations be a more economically feasible option to transport that volume?

Did that AAR study also include the pro's and con's of electrifying the UP transcon?
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Re: Odd Rebuilds and Experimental Locomotive Designs

Unread postby glenn68 » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:53 pm

Union Railroad Buffalo. DRS6-6-1500 rebuild with SD9 high hood and 567 power.
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Re: Odd Rebuilds and Experimental Locomotive Designs

Unread postby hobo1960 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:39 pm

Interesting follow-up on this discussion -- worth a quick viewing.

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http://www.iridetheharlemline.com/2014/04/11/jets-and-atoms-powering-bizarre-trains/
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Re: Odd Rebuilds and Experimental Locomotive Designs

Unread postby philou21 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:52 pm

_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha wrote:Dis the AAR research office really studied atomic powered locomotives?

If so, there must be an archive??

That add clearly shows UP’s colours and wings, so one supposes UP participated expert référencement Paris. Is there anything inUP’s archives then?

I think especially that UP has been updated for some time.
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Re: Odd Rebuilds and Experimental Locomotive Designs

Unread postby Ericmopar » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:45 am

The Santa Fe, hinged boiler mallets...
Santa Fe always tried weird things with articulateds, like this one with a ball joint and accordion section in the boiler, which is why they had "bad" expereiences with them and never bought more than a few.
What might have been, if they had used standard successful designs like the UP Challengers etc.

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Re: Odd Rebuilds and Experimental Locomotive Designs

Unread postby gtrtroger » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:06 am

I stumbled onto this one while looking for something else.
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Re: Odd Rebuilds and Experimental Locomotive Designs

Unread postby _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:30 pm

Garratt's were pretty useful on those narrow gauge main lines and quite successful too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garratt
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Re: Odd Rebuilds and Experimental Locomotive Designs

Unread postby buzz456 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:49 pm

Let's not forget the Aerotrain.
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