The stretched limo of the family

[KCJones]

Shortly to be released the FP7 and FP9
Not quite an F and not quite an E!!!!!

FP7-01.jpg

[MadMike1024]

Shortly to be released the FP7 and FP9
Not quite an F and not quite an E!!!!!

FP7-01.jpg

Was not the stretch to allow a Higher capacity water for the passenger boiler? Approximately four additional feet if I recall correctly.

Wiki quote:

The FP7 was essentially EMD's F7A locomotive extended by four feet to give greater water capacity for the steam generator for heating passenger trains.

While EMD's E-units were successful passenger engines, their A1A-A1A wheel arrangement made them less useful in mountainous terrain.[citation needed] Several railroads had tried EMD's F3 in passenger service, but there was insufficient water capacity in an A-unit fitted with dynamic brakes. The Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway's solution was to replace the steam generators in A-units with a water tank, and so only fitted steam generators in to the B-units. The Northern Pacific Railway's solution was to fit extra water tanks in to the first baggage car, and to pipe the water to the engines. The real breakthrough came when EMD recognized the problem and added the stretched FP7 to its catalog...

A total of 381 cab-equipped lead A units were built; unlike the freight series, no cabless booster B units were sold. Regular F7B units were sometimes used with FP7 A units, since they, lacking cabs, had more room for water and steam generators. The FP7 and its successor, the FP9, were offshoots of GM-EMD's highly successful F-unit series of cab unit freight diesels.

F3s, F7s, and F9s equipped for passenger service are not FP-series locomotives, which although similar in appearance have distinctive differences, including but not limited to the greater body length.

The extra 4 ft (1.2 m) of length was added behind the first body-side porthole, and can be recognised by the greater distance between that porthole and the first small carbody filter grille. The corresponding space beneath the body, behind the front truck, was also opened up; this either remained an empty space or was filled with a distinctive water tank shaped like a barrel mounted transversely.

I did recall right.

[Chacal]

Gonna need a VIA repaint for that FP9A.
Ah, this brings back memories. In 1980 I was a member of an model train club, on the 2nd floor of the train station in Levis, QC.
Every night we would go down on the platform for the arrival of the VIA train with FP9As on the lead.
The old ladies were still chugging valiantly. They would later be rebuilt, and continue working for many years more.

[thecanadianrail]

Gonna need a VIA repaint for that FP9A.
Ah, this brings back memories. In 1980 I was a member of an model train club, on the 2nd floor of the train station in Levis, QC.
Every night we would go down on the platform for the arrival of the VIA train with FP9As on the lead.
The old ladies were still chugging valiantly. They would later be rebuilt, and continue working for many years more.

there are still 2 of them in via paint working in via's yard in Vancouver, #6300 and 6301

[Chacal]

I always thought that funny, because F cab units make the worst yard switchers ever.

[KCJones]

They should be available some time this week end. Uploading as I write. Web site to be update and then we are GO.

[_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha]

Thanks, KC.

Remembers me of my first Atlas H0 US prototype engine I bought back in the late 70's, the FP7. Atlas' models then opened up a new era of model railroading, with hitherto unavailable levels of detail and operation (it was the first scale model with a large can motor and large flywheel, it had a run-out of some 4 feet, which meant it always overran the stop sections on my crudely automated boyhood pike

Nicely proportioned engine due to the extra 4' length, making it look sleek compared to the standard F's that looked chubby in certain paint schemes.

[MadMike1024]

Coming soon to a download area near you.