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Re: Guess what?

Unread postby KCJones » Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:45 pm

Here are a few more shots to whet your appitite!!!! *!twisted!*

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And the wrong side.
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Re: Guess what?

Unread postby UnionPacific7004 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:26 pm

By any chance, in the near future, do you plan to expand your shay project to including a 3-truck version?
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Re: Guess what?

Unread postby KCJones » Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:16 pm

SOMETIME there may be a Class A and C Shay. They are in the list. When is another matter!!!! !*YAAA*!
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Re: Guess what?

Unread postby UnionPacific7004 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:17 pm

KCJones wrote:SOMETIME there may be a Class A and C Shay. They are in the list. When is another matter!!!! !*YAAA*!

I see. I'd love to make a Railworks 3-truck Shay as J. Neils Lumber Company #5 someday. She's been under repairs for a while, but it get people's attention until it returns.
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Re: Guess what?

Unread postby styckx » Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:58 am

While I'm down in this section of the board, figured I'd share one of my photos of Leetonia Railway Shay #1 from the PRRM.

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Re: Guess what?

Unread postby KCJones » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:16 pm

Class C Shay (coal and oil versions) + some disconnected logcars.

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Re: Guess what?

Unread postby thecanadianrail » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:03 pm

OMG! well i can see some steam logging routes in the near future!
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Re: Guess what?

Unread postby Toripony » Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:08 am

Looking good! Any thoughts yet on a price? I'll be saving up my pennies. :D

Can anyone explain to me how a "little" shay with those little wheels can keep traction on such extreme grades?

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Re: Guess what?

Unread postby thecanadianrail » Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:47 am

those wheels are not too much smaller than a diesel loco's wheels.
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Re: Guess what?

Unread postby KCJones » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:58 am

Funnily a Shay is really a steam version of a diesel !*YAAA*!

Sort of steam mechanical rather tham diesel electric.

As to price. I have not yet thought how to package these models. There will be two class Bs ( coal and oil), two class Cs ( c & o) at least one wood burning class A and some logging rolling stock. I will let you know neare release time. Early in the new year I hope.

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Re: Guess what?

Unread postby Toripony » Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:10 pm

Ok, good point about the wheel size. But diesels don't hang well on 9% grades, do they? Wasn't rail contact surface area the whole idea behind the big steamer wheels? Or... well, I guess a diesel of comparable size might... ??? Ok, I need to get SD40 sized stuff out of my head. Does it work because it is so small and the loads so light (compared to mainline RR's)?

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Re: Guess what?

Unread postby thecanadianrail » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:21 pm

well on a logging railroad the train lengths are usualy kept to a fiew cars.(1-15) these railroads had a tight radius so a long train would likely roal the rail in some corrners.
the engine in the picture has 12 driving wheels, same as a modern diesel. as for the steep grades, having a short train meant less stress on the wheels, even on a 9% grade
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Re: Guess what?

Unread postby UnionPacific7004 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:37 am

Now I'm getting Excited! Nice Flavor of the Shay you're creating. I wish the developers at railsimulator.com could make models like yours.
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Re: Guess what?

Unread postby thecanadianrail » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:39 pm

so i have the shay's now and they are great! is it normal for the 3 truck shay not able to take tight corrners like the 2 truck versions? it seems that it can't even take the corners that the 2-8-0's can. the rear truck on the shay have no "play" in the whole end. on the real thing it will pivit due to a link between the fixed tender and the rest of the locomotive. i think it used the same U joint that viecles have in their driveshafts but i could be wrong. all i know is that they should be able to take tighter corrners than a 2-8-0. i hope this is just a bug that will eventually be worked out. *!sad!*
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Re: Guess what?

Unread postby thecanadianrail » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:36 am

i can't even drive the 3 truck version on the mainline of the sherman logging company route that i am bulding. the routes mainline has no sharp turns but the shay still derails!!!! the rear truck will not move side to side in turn derailing the loco.
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