Looking for Lift-Bridge Structure

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Re: Looking for Lift-Bridge Structure

Unread postby wlenz781 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:38 am

BoostedFridge wrote:
wlenz781 wrote:I am also looking for similar draw bridges for a route that I am working on for the KCS line. This bridge is located in Van Buren, AR. It contains some unique assets that are not covered by the 50M tress.
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Here we see what appears to be a 100M tress that starts the bridge coming from Ft. Smith.
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The 'Arthur Kill Lift Bridge' by John Lippai looks like what you need. its here in the RWA file library.

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Thanks for the great asset. Will add it to my route.
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Re: Looking for Lift-Bridge Structure

Unread postby RudiJaeger » Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:01 pm

ET44C4 wrote:Rudi, may I ask where you found the wood pilings?

Big ones are from Wayne Campbell's CVP route, small ones from the GTrax Cascadian. Brush/log guards on piers are board fence objects resized to fit.
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Re: Looking for Lift-Bridge Structure

Unread postby ET44C4 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:41 pm

Okay, thank you
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Re: Looking for Lift-Bridge Structure

Unread postby wlenz781 » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:24 am

RudiJaeger wrote:What a coincidence; I'd been looking for a similar item but couldn't find anything close, so I kit-bashed the Cowlitz River draw-bridge (Longview-Kelso, WA) using pieces from the VNHRR (basic structure), CVP ( resized trestle tower and thru girder), and Konstanz-Villingen (resized small steel arch). I didn't know the Miami route has a draw-bridge, but just as well; don't really want to add another route just for a single object.
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Hope that helps; Cheers!


In your first picture of the Island Empire (Screenshot_Inland Empire_46.10361--122.89433_15-32-18.jpg), you have some supports between the metal tress and the concrete columns. Are these part of the column, or are they a separate object? Where can I find them?
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Re: Looking for Lift-Bridge Structure

Unread postby RudiJaeger » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:54 pm

wlenz781 wrote:In your first picture of the Island Empire (Screenshot_Inland Empire_46.10361--122.89433_15-32-18.jpg), you have some supports between the metal tress and the concrete columns. Are these part of the column, or are they a separate object? Where can I find them?

The supports are actually built into the bridge model. If you reference "Screenshot_Inland Empire_46.10364--122.89347_15-34-16" you'll see a flipped-over and resized thru-plate bridge atop the truss bridge; it also has the built-in supports, although a different style. This bridge was used to disguise the trestle-tower bridge section (flipped sideways) extending from the counter-weight to the top of the truss bridge; so then I had to disguise the built-in footings with a pair of traffic lights; although not prototypical, I thought it might serve as an indicator to the train crew whether it's clear to traverse the bridge.

Most bridges in the various route-assets already have the built-in footings, although I do recall seeing an individual footing-object somewhere; just can't recall which route.

Oh, and here's a tip for flipping/manipulating the objects: Don't spin the objects around until you've done the flipping or tilting part. If you spin them first, it's a real pain to tilt them with any degree of accuracy and you can waste a lot of time trying to adjust everything. Whenever I initially place an object, I've noticed that they are aligned north-south, and when I bring up the rotation tool, the "pitch and yaw" circles are perfectly aligned north-south and east-west; which is how you want them initially to do the tilt-procedure. Using the trestle tower as an example:

1. Place a flat object, such as the large concrete block, and sink most of it into the ground to serve as a guide or foundation.

2. Place a map-pin (misc objects category) or a similar object (fence post) at the north-south, east-west, portions of the block object; these will serve later as an orientation reference.

3. Place the trestle tower onto the block and tilt it to the desired angle with the rotation tool.

4. Place the tower atop the truss bridge, and spin it around until it's aligned. If adjustments to tilt-angle are required; reposition the tower over the block object, spin it around until it aligns with the "map-pins", and fine-tune the "tilt" with the rotation tool; then return the tower over the truss bridge and rotate until it's aligned. Repeat the adjustment steps if necessary.

I didn't intend to go off on such a tangent with the mini-tutorial; but this is something that caused a lot of wasted effort until I finally saw the light. Hopefully this will be of use to yourself and others as well.
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