Southern Pacific: Cab Forward

[gleno747]

I've been reading this stuff about the bigboy and challenger and here's my problem.

I originally bought the bigboy from IHH, but not too long ago I had too re-install Windows. I did not do a backup of my Railworks folder as I wanted to start fresh with everything, but I did think that I had made a back up of some of the 3rd party DLC's. It turned out that I did some but not the bigboy, so I sent an email over to IHH explaining what happened, and asking if I could obtain another download link. I never received a reply so I sent one over to RSC telling them that I emailed IHH, They replied,

Thank you for contacting the Railsimulator.com customer support.

Did you make the purchase from Steam? unfortunately we will be unable to help with any purchases made from a third party supplier directly,
especially if it was made prior to it being available from us via Steam, if you did purchase it from Steam their system would prevent a duplicate download anyway.

So after receiving this email I figured I would sent another email to IHH, and another (that's 3), I also posted on the IHH facebook page, no reply. So after all of this I still have no bigboy unless I buy it of steam, which I shouldn't have to do as I have the proof to say that I purchased it from IHH. It just sucks, I want to be able to drive this huge locomotive, and have it before I get Sherman Hill.

[Old Prof]

For what it's worth, I just took a look at the IHH website, specifically at the "News" tab. One entry there reads as follows:

"Withdrawal from STEAM
"I have removed IHH locomotives from STEAM, this was my decision and is in full agreement with RSC.
"Reasoning behind it is that revenue does not match that from the web site, and restricted my ability to offer packages and special offers...... RSC were also in the same boat."

The "Patches" tab does not have a link attached to it, by the way.

[railbard]

So, for all the breast-beating, what actually will happen (if it happens) is what happens with 3rd party stuff anyway:

You go to their website and download an upgrade patch or the new version of the model/route/scenario pack, etc.

And I assume Paul provides RSC with the (hoped-for) upgrade patch so they can send it to those (like myself) who bought their BigBoy through Steam. Though I'm easy either way, I can just as simply go get it from IHH.

Of course that all depends on whether or not he upgrades BigBoy and Challenger for TS2012. I wouldn't hold my breath on it, though.

[arizonachris]

Paul, while he is always very helpful, will pass it on to RSC/ Steam. He no longer owns the Big Boy. Not much he can do about it..

IoW didn't show up as well? Have you verified the game files? You may have to do it several times until no missing files are found.

[evafan002]

Paul, while he is always very helpful, will pass it on to RSC/ Steam. He no longer owns the Big Boy. Not much he can do about it..

IoW didn't show up as well? Have you verified the game files? You may have to do it several times until no missing files are found.

hmm sorry if you got the impression i had trouble with iow i was using it as an example that's all

[dcushing]

Cab Forwards, Big Boys and Challengers are nice, and they are right at home on Donner Pass and Sherman Hill, but without the proper (1930's to 1050's) frieight and passenger rolling stock they are just so much eye candy. Oh, I will definitly buy the Cab Forward when it's released, and I alredy own the other two but a string of 40 foot PFE reefers and a bunch of 40 and 50 foot boxcars with vintage lettering sure would be nice, and both the Challenger and the Cab Forwards did duty hauling passengers.

Duncan

[gwgardner]

Cab Forwards, Big Boys and Challengers are nice, and they are right at home on Donner Pass and Sherman Hill, but without the proper (1930's to 1050's) frieight and passenger rolling stock they are just so much eye candy. Oh, I will definitly buy the Cab Forward when it's released, and I alredy own the other two but a string of 40 foot PFE reefers and a bunch of 40 and 50 foot boxcars with vintage lettering sure would be nice, and both the Challenger and the Cab Forwards did duty hauling passengers.

Duncan

Such rolling stock is available at Greatnortherner's Golden Age of Railroading site, some if it freeware.

[railbard]

And the stainless steel/lightweight passenger cars from G-Trax. As well as a few repaints here on RA.

[johnmckenzie]

http://www.golden-age-rails.com/freight ... /usra.html

USRA Northwestern lines 40' boxcars - only $5

Combined Northwestern and Northeastern pack available for $7.25. And they're lovely - I can vouch for them

[dcushing]

I thank you all for your suggestions. I am well aware of and have most of the products you mentioned. BUT there is not a single Union Pacific, Southern Pacific or PFE 40' or 50' boxcar or Reefer anywhere. I do not have the talent to repaint so don't even think about suggesting that, and Michael has already said he has no interest in doing any UP equipment. I'm hoping someone with talent will take up the cause!!!

Duncan

[johnmckenzie]

There's a UP repaint on this site - I'll find the link for you!

[johnmckenzie]

http://railworksamerica.com/FileLibrary ... =boxcar+up

Madmike's assorted boxcar pack about halfway down the page has 2 UP boxcars included. Very nice too...

MadMike1024-Assorted_50Ft_Boxcar_Set

and

MadMike1024-UP_AutomatedRailway_40Ft_Boxcar

[johnmckenzie]

http://railworksamerica.com/FileLibrary ... ern+boxcar

Espee boxcar set!!

PapaXpress-SP_50Ft_Boxcar_4-Pack

[William_Putnam]

A steam locomotive I have been yerning for years!

In my youth, I witnessed this loco in action over Donnar Pass (assisting the streamliner "City of San Francisco" over the pass from Reno in 1947.)

The most compelling memory I have of this loco is the distinct sound that came from steam injectors not seen/heard on any other locomotive, so far as I know.

I am guessing here, but I know that the tender oil and water containers had to be pressurized to prevent the locomotive from being "starved" of water and fuel oil on steep grades, which does not run up-hill from the tender to the fire box on such grades! Therefore, I think perhaps that these special steam pumps had to provide that pressure.

You could hear these locos for miles for the distinctive high pitch "chew chew" sound they would make.

I would wish the developers of this loco would look into providing this most distinctive sound.....

[bwfer]

Couple of points... The tender water tank was not pressurized... didn't have to be... both The Nathan non-lifting injector and the Worthington cold water pump (for the feedwater heater) were located below the tank bottom. The injector was located near the lower portion of the cab ladder on the fireman's side. The cold water pump was located on the engineers side at the lower rear of the locomotive just behind the steam chest.

The distinctive sound you are referring to is the sound of the smoke box mounted cross-compound air compressors exhausting through a short length of pipe directly into the atmosphere. That along with the whine of the turbo generator and the deep roar of the firebox was a sound not to be forgotten. No other locomotive sounded like that. and I, too, hope that these sound are incorporated into the model.

I too witnessed these locos in person (as a child). in addition to riding in the cabs on numerous occasions.

Edit: The tender oil tank was pressurized at about 5 lbs per square inch with air from the main air reservoir.

Brian