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How do I recoverd from an emeregency brake application?

Unread postPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:30 am
by LionelDave
I find that I often accidently wind up applying the emergency brake. The problem is I don't know how to restore or recover from this.
I can sometimes over power it by applying excessive throttle but it acts like the break is still on and really messes me up.

This happens to me a lot with the RWA Lakeside route (the milk run scenario). I read somewhere that the brakes for that engine are very bad and when I'm trying to stop I apply too much brake and somehow wind up in an emergency stop. And I don't know what to do to get the engine to respond normally again. And a search overwhelms me with 240 some responses and I can't seem to find documentation for this situation.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I run into this problem in other scenarios too. (as I tend to apply too much brake all the time.)
Thanks
Dave

Re: How do I recoverd from an emeregency brake application?

Unread postPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:13 am
by OldProf
There are these things called "User's Manuals", just chock full of useful information.

Re: How do I recoverd from an emeregency brake application?

Unread postPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:09 am
by LionelDave
I guess that is my problem I can't seem to find the "USERS MANUAL" or any USERS MANUAL that covers my problem.
I looked under the folder "MANUALS" under the game , under steam and none of the manuals listed seem to work.

I probably miss named this post. It should have been "where do I find the manual that covers my problem".

Dave

Re: How do I recoverd from an emeregency brake application?

Unread postPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:18 am
by ssbobz
I don't have any specific advice but it sounds like on the RWA you're having trouble getting used to the brake lapping which I think is manual on that loco.

Re: How do I recoverd from an emeregency brake application?

Unread postPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:22 pm
by slick204
In the railworks folder on your hard drive: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\railworks\Manuals\EN\RW&A User Manual.pdf

Re: How do I recoverd from an emeregency brake application?

Unread postPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:11 pm
by Chacal
Actually the manuals are pretty much useless for this topic, even recent ones, for example Feather River.
The RW&A manual has nothing about recovering from an emergency application.
The very few manuals that do mention it have very different methods, because they are from different modelers and they are modeling different equipment.

To the OP: in general, you have to move the throttle to Idle, and the brake handle to Release, and wait for the EQ reservoir to fill up.
Slightly off-topic: an old army book on how to operate diesel engines. Interesting reading.
https://books.google.ca/books?id=8ns-AA ... cy&f=false

Re: How do I recoverd from an emeregency brake application?

Unread postPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:09 pm
by Ericmopar
To add to what Chacal said, you may also have to put the engine in neutral.

Re: How do I recoverd from an emeregency brake application?

Unread postPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:58 pm
by LionelDave
Thanks for the help guys. Your right I didn't get much help from the manual and couldn't get the brakes to work any better so I changed the RWA RS1 out to the SOO RS1 and the brakes now work the way I'm use to and can handle.

I'm stubborn and hate to change so that is why I changed the engine. My attitude is the problem. Sorry I don't have the patients to do the correct way.

I think when I get some time I may try and copy the Soo's engine file over into the RWA RS1. That should make the RWA RS1 engine respond like I'm use to.

Anyway thanks for trying to teach and old dog a new trick.
Dave

Re: How do I recoverd from an emeregency brake application?

Unread postPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:09 pm
by gwgardner
I thought that when an engine comes to a complete stop after emergency braking, one could hit the Z key to enable release of the brake. It worked that way in the original Railworks. Maybe I'm dreaming. Or maybe it was engine-specific.

Re: How do I recoverd from an emeregency brake application?

Unread postPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:22 pm
by LionelDave
gwgardner

I will try the "Z" key next time I'm in an emergency stop and see if I get out if it.
I'm hoping your right. Because that is what I'm looking for.
Dave