Norfolk Southern N-Line

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Re: Norfolk Southern N-Line

Unread postby DKSspeed » Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:27 pm

Please stop with the rivet counting and enjoy having an american route. If y'all want everything to be "perfect" go make your own company and give it a try.
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Re: Norfolk Southern N-Line

Unread postby AmericanSteam » Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:10 pm

DKSspeed wrote:Please stop with the rivet counting and enjoy having an american route. If y'all want everything to be "perfect" go make your own company and give it a try.

As a paying customer I have the right to criticize or praise any product that I have purchased as to its merits or lack of as long as I do it in a courteous and thoughtful manner. I don't expect perfect in this case, just better.
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Re: Norfolk Southern N-Line

Unread postby BoostedFridge » Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:29 pm

Soooo... any pics of the scenery on the route? Terrain?

The recycled stock is part of the Dovetail business model that ain't changing anytime soon. If you add up the man hours that $40 x ~1000-1500 units pays for, it doesn't cover much time for making a super detailed route, let alone creating fresh super detailed 3d models. We can wish for whatever we want, but the best items for this game have came from 3rd party devs. Be greatful for what we have, and 'vote with your wallet'.

We have better stock available to us, which we can swap in/out with RWtools, or by making our own scenarios.
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Re: Norfolk Southern N-Line

Unread postby mindenjohn » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:15 am

I’ be clearer (than my last post?), I like it. It has lots of good, lots of potential for development (I always tweak, add, change for my own use) and as far as the stock is concerned, the library is full of repaints to swap.
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Re: Norfolk Southern N-Line

Unread postby dr1980 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:22 am

I’m going to buy this as I love running local freights. In terms of horns, bells etc I actually stopped paying attention to stock horns and bells a while ago as the first thing I do is replace them with sound files from my library of searchlight simulations horn sets.

In terms of the rolling stock comments I would love to see more variety not so much in shape, but in textures/weathering as it’s not normal to see a bunch of rail cars in a row that looks exactly the same. I think i just need to get into the habit of actually downloading some repaints and replacing them in activities.

Any warts aside I’m happy that DTG is still producing content like this.
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Re: Norfolk Southern N-Line

Unread postby AmericanSteam » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:04 am

I will say that this is a good base route that will look better as people add personal fluff, modify sounds and change power and rolling stock to suit individual tastes. I do thank DTG for an American route.
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Re: Norfolk Southern N-Line

Unread postby Claude350 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:36 pm

The horn on the GP40 sounds terrible. I'll be switching it out for something more realistic.
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Re: Norfolk Southern N-Line

Unread postby BNSFdude » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:40 pm

Job security for me. !*roll-laugh*!
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Re: Norfolk Southern N-Line

Unread postby AmericanSteam » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:47 pm

Claude350 wrote:The horn on the GP40 sounds terrible. I'll be switching it out for something more realistic.

Yup, recycled.
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Re: Norfolk Southern N-Line

Unread postby cnwfan » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:49 pm

When Searchlight Simulations comes out with their loco sound fixes for the route, I'll pick it up then. Hint... hint.
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Re: Norfolk Southern N-Line

Unread postby bnsfsubdivision » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:56 pm

cnwfan wrote:When Searchlight Simulations comes out with their loco sound fixes for the route, I'll pick it up then. Hint... hint.

Nothing from us i'm afraid.
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Re: Norfolk Southern N-Line

Unread postby TheTeenageFoamer » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:25 pm

cnwfan wrote:When Searchlight Simulations comes out with their loco sound fixes for the route, I'll pick it up then. Hint... hint.

Searchlight wont touch those. The closest they'll do is make a GP38-2
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Re: Norfolk Southern N-Line

Unread postby hminky » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:22 am

Not as good as Blackwood or Adriana, got a refund.

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Re: Norfolk Southern N-Line

Unread postby cnwfan » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:18 am

bnsfsubdivision wrote:Nothing from us i'm afraid.


If you don't mind me asking... why? Searchlight Sim has both the turbo and non-turbo 16-645 EMD sound sets. And Searchlight Sim has done sound enhancements for other DTG products. With the reoccurring complaint about "recycled sounds", this seems like a natural enhancement for your product line, plus I would think it would be a fairly quick hitter as the base sound sets already exist. Anyways, If the answer is no, I hope Searchlight Sim reconsiders. Thanks!
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Re: Norfolk Southern N-Line

Unread postby bnsfsubdivision » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:28 am

cnwfan wrote:If you don't mind me asking... why? Searchlight Sim has both the turbo and non-turbo 16-645 EMD sound sets. And Searchlight Sim has done sound enhancements for other DTG products. With the reoccurring complaint about "recycled sounds", this seems like a natural enhancement for your product line, plus I would think it would be a fairly quick hitter as the base sound sets already exist. Anyways, If the answer is no, I hope Searchlight Sim reconsiders. Thanks!

It's a time consuming process and we rather spend it on development of brand new rolling stock/locos rather than "fixing" default stock.
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