New York Division-Bergen Line

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New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Sun May 24, 2015 8:14 pm

The New York Division - Bergen Line as conceived is a hybrid era route reflecting the late 1960s through today. The name is intended to evoke the era of operations on the Erie-Lackawanna. The track speeds, track conditions were recreated from the New York Division Time table Effective 0201hours August 25th, 1974 . As a hybrid, what is meant is that though out the construction of the route, elements that are missing in the current era have been recreated. The prime example of this is the recreation of the Ford Plant in Mahwah, NJ. The 4 track main that existed through the 1970s with Conrail is reduced to 2 track from Waldwick to Suffern, to reflect its current condition. Many sidings present in the pre-Norfolk Southern area have been restored on this route. Platforms for stations are both high and low type as they exist today. So the hybrid method is intended to create enough flavor to echo the routes former self and capture its modern state. The route as it stands constructed at this moment is 47 miles of full scenery from Highland Mills, New York to the Bergen Hill, in Jersey City, NJ. The plan is to complete the route Hoboken move back to Suffern and redo the elevations to Highland Mills, NY. The route terrain is hand formed using USGS maps and Google earth, no DEM was used in the route. The lack of using DEM has caused a great amount of pain in lost time, however, the topography is there. On the New Jersey side it is very accurate down the street level. West of Suffern the elevation at grade is off up to 60 feet. As we approach the 1 year anniversary on June 1, 2015, it is time to present this to Railworks America at it is finally sufficient to be presented for your consideration and enjoyment.

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The route can be found on the Steam Work Shop here: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =265923409

An article about the route in Engine Driver here: http://www.engine-driver.com/article/sh ... ergen-line

Youtube of the Bergen Line In Action
https://youtu.be/oRY-EfU5Xn8

Matt Peddlesden Reviews the Bergen Line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMUfDWA8CKU



The Particulars: Please Review

The New York Division-Line is a WIP Route. We construct in sections, in order, doing terrain, track, signals, streets, buildings, trees and shrubs and lastly telephone poles and lighting. We release every 1 to 2 weeks on Friday Mornings. We pride ourselves in our scenery work. We do 1250 feet on each side of the track at a minimum and we build at a rate of one half mile by one half mile every 20 hours of work or 1 week. Lastly, we feel the track grades are very true to life and they change mile to mile and in many places less than that. You will see the up and down of the track through the whole route and we think that is very cool.

Distribution of Assets

•Track is Sherman Hill and signaling is UP Style Search Light from Sherman Hill.
•35% buildings and 45% roads are from the Munich-Augsburg.
•39% Buildings and 55% roads are from Sherman Hill
•25% Buildings are from American/European Asset pack.
•80 % of Truss and Plate bridges are from the American/European Asset pack.
•20 % of Truss and Plate bridges are from the New Jersey Coast Line pack.
•1% Secaucus and Hoboken Terminal are from the New Jersey Coast Line pack.
All the DLC is thoroughly used, areas transition from one type to the other and some blend all the packs.
Scenery is dense on this route and you will find having these assets to be well worth it. Duo Core 2gHz, 8gb Ram and a 2gb for better performance is also recommended.

Recommended Assets

•NJT F40PH-2CAT
•NJT Bombardier ALP-45DP
•Metro-North P32 AC-DM
•SD70M-2 - Norfolk Southern
•SW1500 Switcher - Norfolk Southern
•Dash8-40C - Norfolk Southern
•SD40-2 High Nose Long Hood Forward - Norfolk Southern

Features

•Double Track Mainline, 3-Track Mainline, Super-Elevation
•3 Passenger Yards: NJDOT: Hillburn, NY, Waldwick , NJ and Hoboken, NJ
•6 Freight Yards: Hillburn - Suffern Yard, Ford Mahwah, Passaic Junction-Coalburg, Dundee Park, Croxton Yard, Croxton-Intermodal
•Ford Automobile Plant in Mahwah, NJ recreated from historical imagery with 13 track yard.
•National Biscuit Corp (Nabisco) Plant in Fairlawn, NJ with 2 sidings and surrounding industrial park.
•Over 50 Customer Sidings
•River Crossings: Ramapo, Passaic (3 Times), Saddlebrook and the Hackensack.
•Grades to 1.8% represented where they actually exist on the line
•47 Miles of main-line running.
•4 branch lines (Piermont Branch, Dundee Spur, Old Main Line and Pascack Valley Line)
•22 of 22 New Jersey Transit Stations built
•Includes Free Roam and Quickdrive spawns.
•Quick Drives are stocked with Sherman Hill assets and placed using satellite imagery.
•Deep Scenery, no less that 1250 feet on each side of the track and up to 3 miles in areas
•Detailed Towns and Cities with accurate streets and street elevations
•Night Lighting, extensive use of lighting for overnight operations
•200,000 Trees

Interchange

New York Susquehanna & Western RR at 2 Locations: Hawthorne. NJ (2 Tracks) and Saddle Brook, NJ (8 Tracks and 3 miles of track and 4 Customer Sidings)

New York & Greenwood Lake RR. Garfield, NJ (1 Track) and 4 Track Yard in Passaic, NJ on the Dundee Spur

Stations: Erie Main Line
Harriman, Tuxedo, Sloatsburg, Suffern, Mahwah, Ramsey-RT17, Ramsey-Main Street, Allendale, Waldwick, Ho-Ho-Kus, Ridgewood, Glen Rock, Hawthorne and Hoboken

Stations: Bergen Line
Glen Rock (Boro Hall), Radburn, Broadway Plauderville, Garfield, Rutherford and Secaucus, New Jersey

Stations: Pascack Valley Line
Wood-Ridge, NJ

Images

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Re: New York Divsion-Bergen Line

Unread postby Bcbuhler » Mon May 25, 2015 8:20 am

I downloaded it the other day and even though I don't have Munich-Augsburg I thought it was a very well done map. Someday I might make some scenarios so I can enjoy it and all the customer sidings.
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Re: New York Divsion-Bergen Line

Unread postby Chacal » Mon May 25, 2015 10:19 am

Holy cow this looks like a very serious project.
Nice work!
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Re: New York Divsion-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Mon May 25, 2015 11:18 am

Chacal wrote:Holy cow this looks like a very serious project.
Nice work!


When we crossed the 6 month mark at about 18 miles we knew we were in for trouble. And yes, we are very serious. *!lol!*
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Re: New York Divsion-Bergen Line

Unread postby imnew » Mon May 25, 2015 2:46 pm

Wow **!!bow!!** Awesome work !*brav*!
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Re: New York Divsion-Bergen Line

Unread postby ex-railwayman » Tue May 26, 2015 12:40 pm

I have a query with this please, Sir. Being British, from last October, we aren't allowed to purchase any BNSF locomotive DLC any more until they get this licencing mess sorted out, and the only missing item I have on your route is the Pipe Flat Car bin file from the ES44ACBNSFPack, is there another Pipe load I could use please, I have purchased just about every other item of DLC from Steam and would like to obtain everything for your route to run effectively.

Many thanks.

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Re: New York Divsion-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Tue May 26, 2015 1:17 pm

ex-railwayman wrote:I have a query with this please, Sir. Being British, from last October, we aren't allowed to purchase any BNSF locomotive DLC any more until they get this licencing mess sorted out, and the only missing item I have on your route is the Pipe Flat Car bin file from the ES44ACBNSFPack, is there another Pipe load I could use please, I have purchased just about every other item of DLC from Steam and would like to obtain everything for your route to run effectively.

Many thanks.

Cheerz. ex-railwayman.


Ex-Railwayman,

I am aware of the licensing issue with the BNSF, but have not heard of an instance where a subscriber could not load an object on the route. It appears you are looking simply for an alternative pipe load to use. I will look into alternate DLC that has pipe loads in the meantime. But, I imagine that RWA must have something in their library that would be of use. With that said, I can state, as the Route's creator, that there isn't a single customer on the Bergen line that takes pipe. The Ford plant takes 30 Auto-parts Cars and another 30 Auto-carrier Cars a day and some gondolas that would hold automobile frames for assembly. The next largest used car type with be Covered Hoppers, then standard Box Cars and then a tank car here and there. Lastly, I continue to try and edit out that BNSF DLC reference to no avail. BNSF is unchecked in the asset list I use when I work on the route. All the cars and locomotives that you really need, on the Bergen Line can be found in the Sherman HIll Set, which was one of the reasons I chose that for the route. Please let me know of any specific error with the route. We have subscribers from Europe and Asia and I have not heard, yet, of any issues. So, hearing this report from you is now my concern. Please post here or, preferably, on the route site on Steam to continue untangling this issue.

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Re: New York Divsion-Bergen Line

Unread postby ex-railwayman » Tue May 26, 2015 3:13 pm

Thank you for the quick reply, this is what my RW Tools tells me, it looks like these pipes are on the same tile, so, possibly in someone's warehouse yard, or, something similar. I will have a look for any pipes then in my collection that can be used as a scenery item, if I cannot find anything suitable I'll just delete them as I wouldn't have thought they would influence the operation of the layout at all.

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Unread postby minerman146 » Tue May 26, 2015 4:10 pm

ex-railwayman wrote:Thank you for the quick reply, this is what my RW Tools tells me, it looks like these pipes are on the same tile, so, possibly in someone's warehouse yard, or, something similar. I will have a look for any pipes then in my collection that can be used as a scenery item, if I cannot find anything suitable I'll just delete them as I wouldn't have thought they would influence the operation of the layout at all.

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Ex-Railwayman,

There are pipes on the route as scenery! And that may be why I cant remove the BNSF dependency. Location one is where the Dundee Spur goes from the Main Line onto Monroe Street. You will see 2 fence enclosures with nothing in them. That is were the pipes are. This is very amusing. There is a fence factory in Garfield. I didn't have rolls of fencing and used PIPE LOADS instead. There are at least 40 pipe loads there. Location 2 is by Passaic Junction. Again, I used Pipe Loads as scenery. I will look into removing these assets. Great Catch on your part, so thank you.

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Re: New York Divsion-Bergen Line

Unread postby ex-railwayman » Tue May 26, 2015 5:54 pm

Well, I've found some pipes as scenery items, I just need to see how long they are and how much space I have to play with at these premises, thanks for the locations, however, they aren't American as such, I don't suppose that matters really, we can say they are imports for an important construction project, that's the good thing about this game, we can use our imagination. !*roll-laugh*!
Thanks for your help, I hope you can get things sorted out at your end, I have looked at the map and it's beautifully constructed, by the way, you've done a very impressive job, well done, Sir. !*salute*!

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Re: New York Divsion-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Wed May 27, 2015 6:55 am

This image is of the Dundee Spur. The pipe storage area is to the left and center and the factory itself is where the brick chimney is.
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Re: New York Divsion-Bergen Line

Unread postby ex-railwayman » Thu May 28, 2015 6:50 pm

Thanks for the location link, I'll pop a few pipes on and put some other bits and pieces in the yards to fill them up a bit. I'll get some screenshots up soon, when I've got myself sorted out. I assume that this is Norfolk Southern country for my diesel roster, and possibly Conrail if we go back a few decades, are there any other major Railroads that we have in the game I can authentically put on this line, being English, I'm not very familiar with this area??? !!*ok*!!

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Re: New York Divsion-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Thu May 28, 2015 8:37 pm

ex-railwayman wrote:Thanks for the location link, I'll pop a few pipes on and put some other bits and pieces in the yards to fill them up a bit. I'll get some screenshots up soon, when I've got myself sorted out. I assume that this is Norfolk Southern country for my diesel roster, and possibly Conrail if we go back a few decades, are there any other major Railroads that we have in the game I can authentically put on this line, being English, I'm not very familiar with this area??? !!*ok*!!

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Current Operators on this line include: Norfolk Southern, New Jersey Transit, Metropolitan Transit Authority (known as the Metro North Commuter Railroad. Also the New York Susquehanna and Western Railroad runs diverted traffic on the main line and we have modeled their interchange with Norfolk Southern at Passaic Junction.
Past Operators: Contrail, Erie Lackawanna Railway and the Erie Railroad.
As a note this line models track that has been in operation since 1848. Not the same rail of course.
Cant wait to see your pictures. *!greengrin!*
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Re: New York Divsion-Bergen Line

Unread postby ex-railwayman » Fri May 29, 2015 7:52 am

Thanks a lot for your list, I have some NewJerseyTransit stuff, and huge amounts of NS and Conrail content already, so, I should find quite a few things very useful to play with on your little layout.

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Re: New York Divsion-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:42 pm

New Route update for today, Friday June 12th 2015. Rutherford, NJ has been reached. Below is an evening screen shot of the Rutherford Station. The NJT power in the background is on RWA by Sully.
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