Modeling Class - Day 2 Interface

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Re: Modeling Class - Day 2 Interface

Unread postby artimrj » Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:48 pm

OK I will do another one, except it is mostly screenshots. E is the Construction Panel. It has 9 icons in it. They are divided into 3 groups. You can see the divider in the screenshot.

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The first group has Material items in it. Thats the color patterns and texture you have. You have Material Palette and Material Library. WHen you click on them it opens a new panel below the icon bar. These are the Material tools.

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The middle group contains Primitives, Shape Building Tools, Bones, Lights and the Component Library. You can click all of them to open their panels.

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The right group is Shape related. Shape Operations and Shape Layer panels are opened with these two.

conpanel04.jpg


Then if you undock the window, you can resize it, turn on all your tools and see them all at once. If you are fortunate to have a second monitor, you can move the whole window to the other monitor.

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So basically it is a navigation tool for your tools.
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Re: Modeling Class - Day 2 Interface

Unread postby qrfan3 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:50 pm

My work and roster commitments will have me dragging the chain about every 4 days or so....no biggie, I'll tag along and being a fresh new starter to this type of modeling ( never used ) of 3DC I will absorb as much as I can, so I will not rush into it.
Following up with Christian I've selected A....might as well commence with the first letter.
A part of a very important section of 3DC I believe..... which is the the Hierarchy.
From the start of a new scene before any primitives are added a default Hierarchy is set up with regards to:
Annimation Camera
Point Light
Ambient Light
Directional Light #1
Directional Light #2

A is directional Light #2, an infinite light source ( far away ) which cannot be moved but re-adjusted to give the types of effect you want.

In 8.2 Pro, the Hierarchy Structure Tab can be found in the Properties and Information Panel. By highlighting Directional #2 it will bring up the light axis controls as shown by the circle. This light can be adjusted along the X & Y axis or Z & Y axis by holding left click in the little grey triangles between either axis and moving to give your affect.
Results are shown by the before...after shots.
If required you can add additional directional lights by dragging the Add selection I have shown into your scene.

Edit: You can remove ( hide ) this light source ( circle ) by left clicking anywhere on your scene page


Best I can do for a newbie... :D

Gordon.

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Re: Modeling Class - Day 2 Interface

Unread postby artimrj » Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:52 pm

Oh no. We were doing the same thing at the same time. We both did E. I thought I started out on page 2 and ended up on page 3.

Sorry about that. Gee and I thought I was going to get extra credit. *!!wink!!*
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Re: Modeling Class - Day 2 Interface

Unread postby qrfan3 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:55 pm

Hahahaha..... !*lho*!
I wondered what happened to my post....but I did A, unless you are referring to Christian who shoved us both onto page 3..... !*roll-laugh*!
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Re: Modeling Class - Day 2 Interface

Unread postby artimrj » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:02 pm

Gordon: I was talking about Christian's post. His wasn't there when I started. He also did E.

As for your post, that was something strange. I went to make my apology post and got a message that "the post has allready been replied to" and it was actually letting me append or edit your post before you even submitted it. I think I found a bug in phpBB.
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Re: Modeling Class - Day 2 Interface

Unread postby qrfan3 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:04 pm

Yep...you are correct there Bob...... I thought I had to do it all over again as it disappeared all together and then reappeared... !**duh*!!
Don't know where my first uploaded attachment went....... *!lol!*
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Re: Modeling Class - Day 2 Interface

Unread postby Hawk » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:22 pm

artimrj wrote:As for your post, that was something strange. I went to make my apology post and got a message that "the post has allready been replied to" and it was actually letting me append or edit your post before you even submitted it. I think I found a bug in phpBB.

When you make a post and click on the Submit button, and someone else has made a new post while you were typing yours, it will show the other persons post but I don't think you can actually edit the other persons post. It does give you the opportunity to edit yours according to what the other persons posts had to say.
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Re: Modeling Class - Day 2 Interface

Unread postby artimrj » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:25 pm

OK Hawk, I beleive your correct there. I didnt try to edit and as I think that is sorta what the message from the forum was trying to tell me. I didn't know what to do so I just exited IE. I never saw that happen before.
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Re: Modeling Class - Day 2 Interface

Unread postby johnybgood18 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:58 pm

@ artimrj
We might have done it at the same time, but I goofed! I thought Rich was refering to that single lightbulb icon! *!embar*!

You gave all the explanation I left out! Thanks for all the info, it has been a great reading! I just love this thing... next time, when I do one, I'll rty and do it right! !!*ok*!!
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Re: Modeling Class - Day 2 Interface

Unread postby rgarber » Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:49 pm

Cool! Awesome! Great to see you're all making an effort.... is this right? You all did the same letter?? !*don-know!* Okay, well... that'll work... I guess. Might take a little longer to get through this class than I thought...

*flipping through papers to be graded*

Okay. Christian asked about if the lighting effects the exported model. I don't think so. But I'm no expert on 3D Canvas but I think to get that kind of effect you'd need what 3d studio max does, and it burns the lighting effect into the textures, I think.

*flipping through more papers to be graded*

Mostly I was in my music studio this afternoon so I'm playing catch-up here. Gordon, what is "dragging the chain?" *!embar*!

*flipping through even more papers to be graded*

Derek was here? Did I read that right? That's good, I didn't think they knew anything of this class.

*looks over at kid squishing his nose up against the monitor glass... say what the heck??? *!rolleyes!* kids!*

Very good coverage of the lighting guys. I've didn't do a good job of learning the lighting effects and you can see in my building pics from 3d Canvas mine usually turn out pretty dark because of it. Better to add more lighting so you don't go blind working on the models.

*still flipping through papers grading as we go along*

And last, (I'm working backwards through the posting btw) at Christian again. What I mean that my textures are pretty simple, you typically won't see my textures including windows and doors and little things like that. For one thing I am very poorly organized. And because of that I use more textures for a model than I should. I pretty much make-it-up as I go along but if I had planned my models out better (or at all... !*don-know!* ), I could reduce the number of textures in the model. It's kind of important because for each texture used the game draws that model that many times over. That can be a problem for fps on slower computers.

Christian, I think what your refering to is you like the look of the textures. That part really isn't hard at all. That's something I could show you in a couple of minutes. You just make use of layers and use lighting variances to blend the different layers together. I use soft light a lot. Even a little experimenting will yield great results. Remind me about this sometime and I'll show you guys what I mean. The difference is like the difference between painting with a paint brush and painting with an air brush. So easy too.

*puts papers down* Whew!

I think I'm caught up now but could you guys get started on F? Great job so far!

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Re: Modeling Class - Day 2 Interface

Unread postby Trainguy76 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:53 pm

rgarber wrote:Okay. Christian asked about if the lighting effects the exported model. I don't think so. But I'm no expert on 3D Canvas but I think to get that kind of effect you'd need what 3d studio max does, and it burns the lighting effect into the textures, I think.


*Cough* Blender does that *Cough* It's called shadow baking.
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Re: Modeling Class - Day 2 Interface

Unread postby qrfan3 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:05 pm

You know what Rich....we sure are going to make Alex earn his keep when we do his Blender Tutorials..hey!!.... !*brav*!
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Re: Modeling Class - Day 2 Interface

Unread postby rgarber » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:51 pm

Yeah, these youngin whipper snappers... !*roll-laugh*!

Honestly I'm looking forward to the Blender stuff. I tried, it looks so complicated. I'm sure Alex will simplify it. He's probably working on his class materials as we speak! *!!wink!!*

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Re: Modeling Class - Day 2 Interface

Unread postby arizonachris » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:07 pm

Jeese, all this stuff makes me look like I'm in kidde garden. !**duh*!! Just a driver. **!!bow!!**
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Re: Modeling Class - Day 2 Interface

Unread postby Trainguy76 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:16 pm

rgarber wrote:Yeah, these youngin whipper snappers... !*roll-laugh*!

Honestly I'm looking forward to the Blender stuff. I tried, it looks so complicated. I'm sure Alex will simplify it. He's probably working on his class materials as we speak! *!!wink!!*

Rich


Now where's that "screaming and running in circles" emoticon.... *!!wink!!*
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